By Steve (Steve2) on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 01:19 pm: Edit

roverine (kim)
tc
javier

if we can get three more people - i'll do a another 6 units - must know before sale ends! please read post #41 on the orig. group buy list

thanks
steve

By tomorover on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 05:06 pm: Edit

Do you take Paypal? Yes or no, count me in!

By Steve (Steve2) on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 07:20 pm: Edit

no paypal - i can do reg cc's (add 3%) - ok -so we are up to 4 - only two more!

steve

By jmon on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 07:31 pm: Edit

jmon here ..i posted on the other strand.....count me in for sure...i need one of these!...thanks again for all the work....

By Steve (Steve2) on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 07:38 pm: Edit

hear five! - one more and we're there...

steve

By Steve (Steve2) on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 07:38 pm: Edit

hear five! - one more and we're there...

steve

By Roverine on Tuesday, August 28, 2001 - 08:22 pm: Edit

C'mon, C'mon! (again) .. Did everyone who's in, e mail/fax Steve with proper info?

Kim

By AL on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 02:51 am: Edit

Hi Steve,
i posted on wrong page,lol.
Count me in for two
Email me asap
THX

By tomorover on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 03:16 am: Edit

Sorry to back out, but I got what I need!

I won't stick you if you ordered for me, though. If I can back out, great. If not, let me know.

By John C. on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 03:21 am: Edit

I'll take one!

Let me know. Thanks

John C.

By jmon on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 05:09 am: Edit

JMON here...steve email and let me know what the status is ...still want one of these...i am for sure...thanks again for all the work...do we have enough yet

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 07:44 am: Edit

ok - now i think we are off balance again

so far i have
1: kim
2: tc
3: javier
4: sam
5: john c
6: al
7: al
8: jmon

so we need 4 more to round it out to 12 - or cut it off at the fist 6....
steve

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 09:43 am: Edit

ms. jones have joined the party - now we are 9

need three more victims....

By Ron on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 09:50 am: Edit

one word

ebay

ebay the extras and don't worry

Ron

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 09:53 am: Edit

I'll take one.
Dean

By Karen Jones on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 10:01 am: Edit

Geez Steve, great secret-keeper you are, LOL! Right Ron, and on ebay you get an increase in your feedback rating, too! HAHAHA, what color is your ebay star? Don't get me started looking on ebay for yet another item of interest. I'm only sorry I missed a REALLY nice 2001 DII SE with 5000 miles for under $30K about a month ago. It was local enough to drive to easily, but I hadn't settled the ACE/non-ACE thing in my brain, and it was a non-ACE vehicle. I didn't love the color, but for $$$ savings, I'd have grown to love it....

Karen

By Karen Jones on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 10:04 am: Edit

P.S. That ebay Disco had a pricey extended warranty thrown in, too. As if ebay didn't rule my life enough already....man.....

KJ

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 11:58 am: Edit

ok - so

10: andrew
11: dean

now only one short - and this really is it -
steve

By jmon on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 04:27 pm: Edit

ok is there any one else that needs one? come on guys and gals....thanks again steve

By Roverine on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 04:44 pm: Edit

C'mon, C'mon ... (damn, hubby traveling - will be home soon, not sure if he wants two ...) C'mon ... anyone who dosen't have their recovery points, etc. tackled yet get in ....

kim

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, August 29, 2001 - 07:54 pm: Edit

we might have the 12th - will mail paul and know shortly

steve

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 03:18 am: Edit

Got a photo, while we wait?

By Steve (Steve2) on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 05:57 am: Edit

dean -

i threw the flyer out as i thought it was all over- if you goto 4x4connection.com then to recovery equipment - it's just like the one in the middle selling for $45.71 - except the ones i got were all silver -

steve
maybe if any of the other guys who got theirs already and have a camera can take a photo

By Brian Welsh on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 02:32 pm: Edit

Can I get the 12th.

By Steve (Steve2) on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 03:04 pm: Edit

we got 12 - paul is supposed to be 12th but i have not heard from him- so if i don't then brian is 12th AND THAT'S IT!

steve

By Roverine on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 06:49 pm: Edit

YOU ARE VERY "KEWL". Thanks, Steve!

Kim & Greg

By jmon on Thursday, August 30, 2001 - 08:07 pm: Edit

steve you are the radest....many thanks to you again

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 02:30 am: Edit

Stonking, gov! Simply stonking

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 02:33 am: Edit

This is the picture, I think:


Dean

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 02:36 am: Edit

This is a 7/8 inch shackle right? But the pin holding it is 5/8 on a rover. Do you think a second 5/8 hole and pin might be in order?
Dean

By Karen Jones on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 06:32 am: Edit

Steve's the best, striped or otherwise!

Karen ;)

By Steve (Steve2) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 06:37 am: Edit

i stuck mine on last night with a 2.5" hardened case bolt i got at a hardware store. seems to be just fine...

ok-
here are the instructions;

fax me your shipping address
to 310-451-2953
or email me so i can print it out - not in a download please, just in a mail.

be sure to have a phone # so i can contact you with a total and how you want to pay.

so here is the final list:
1: kim
2: tc
3: javier
4: sam
5: john c
6: al
7: al
8: jmon
9: dean
10: karen
11: andrew
12: paul
13: brian*

*i got trans america to sell me a 13th shackle for the same price. so brian you lucked out.

i should get the shackles on tuesday and will start to send them out then

have a great weekend everyone

steve (far too nice for his own good)

By gp (Garrett) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 07:08 am: Edit

got mine today! they sell the pins for these at Wal-Marts and other such stores. just pick one up there for like $5 or so.

thanks again steve.

mucho appreciato~

garrett

By Karen Jones on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 07:08 am: Edit

Careful everyone...it's a cheap ploy to get your phone numbers for his little black-striped book......heeheehee......watch for my e-mail Steve, you animal. Really, what a nice thing to do for everyone......whoops, did I say that out loud?

KJ ;)

By Carl E. Cedeholm (Cederholm) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 08:56 am: Edit

Steve,
I just got mine, (from the original group). It's quite beefy...I'm tossing in on tomorow.
Thank's for doing all the footwork!
If your ever in NYC give me a shout, the beers on me.

Carl

By jmon on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 09:49 am: Edit

steve, like i said earlier "you are the radest" thanks again...

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 12:19 pm: Edit

Steve,
KARMAUTU.... ? This your proper email address?
Dean

By Steve (Steve2) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 12:22 pm: Edit

yes that is my email - and a FREE hella work lamp to anyone who can tell me what it means.

so far not one of my friends can get it. it's a toughy
steve

By Roverine on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 12:42 pm: Edit

I just faxed you the info, Steve - yes, that is my handwriting, and would probably be considered my neatest - if you can't decipher it, e mail or call, and i'll translate it for you. i think the shipping address is clear enough ... Steve is a very, very nice boy. very nice boy! nice, nice, nice. good, good, good. nice, generous, thoughtful, conscientious, kindhearted, selfless, caring, soulful ... okay, i'll stop before i get sent something not so nice in my package. Anyway, you get the picture. THANKS!

Kim - margie on the rocks, no salt, 100% pure agave Tequilla blanco. owe you one!

By Roverine on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 12:55 pm: Edit

your e mail: ...ummmmm, ... does it have something to do with good karma? .. UTU: ... uh, ... what comes around, goes around???? Uh, ... you like the music of U2??? Uh, ... I give up, besides I can't think without getting interupted every 15.5 seconds here. Did I win???

-K

By Steve (Steve2) on Friday, August 31, 2001 - 06:54 pm: Edit

kim - you are the WEAKEST LINK! thanks for trying- unfortunately intimate knowledge of ancient languages, tibetan lore and sumerian mythology are required.

steve
ps - no one ever gets it really, but that's ok. that sounds like a mighty strong margie there....

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 02:16 am: Edit

I think it means, in sumerian under-talk, 'my diff is shafted' ?

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 02:58 am: Edit

Well.....

Back in high school we did a play called "Gilgamesh and Enkidu", which was based on the infamous Mesopotamian pair from the Biblical city of Ur who wrestled w/ each other for fun all the time, and if I remember correctly, had something to do w/ the Cedars of Lebanon. Anyway, the play had a god-dude in it named Utu who represented the Sun.... kinda like the latter-day Apollo being a son of a bigger god, but was he himself responsible for the sun "rising and setting", where he would ride to the underworld each night, and then back the next day. Now I'm gonna have to go diggin' through my old trunks of junk and see if I can dig out the script....

But anyway, taking a stab at it, given that Karma is usually aligned with "what goes around comes around", and then playing off the Utu reference as a Sun god, I would say that:

"Karma Utu" is almost saying that "the sun will set, and the sun will rise".

-L

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 06:37 am: Edit

I still think his diff is shafted

By Ron on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 07:57 am: Edit

1. Karma is for you too Karma U Tu

or you believe everything is homeothermic.

Utu = temperature

Some reference to the greenhouse effect being (or not being) BS?

By Ron on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 08:04 am: Edit

You are not a member of the transportation union are you?

By Jose A Cabrera (Jcabrera) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:17 am: Edit

Steve, I will give it try:
KARMAUTU
KARMA = The Pali term Karma literally means action or doing. Any kind of intentional action whether mental, verbal, or physical, is regarded as Karma.

UTU = Natural

Did I win? How close am I?

Jose

By Steve (Steve2) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:47 am: Edit

oooh - jose - you are sooooo close. but not there

steve

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:50 am: Edit

Bummer, I thought I was on the right track.

Hmmm...... gotta go diggin' for those ol' books...


-L

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:53 am: Edit

Wouldn't be so crass as to be, playing off of Jose's Karma definition, " 'Do' you, too" ?? I'd have thought not....

-L

By Ron on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:54 am: Edit

So you are not in a mass transit union.

Ron

By Ron on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:55 am: Edit

Be kind to nature as it is all part of the same thing Karma

Ron

Aka tread lightly

By Chris DeJesus (Mudy_Ovl) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:58 am: Edit

Steve, working from the research and insight of others, (basically I'm combining ideas). I think KARMAUTU is your version of "Just Do It." Close? Anyhow, I am really impressed with Leslie's and Jose's insight into other languages.
CD
P.S. By the way, thanks again for putting together the 1st receiver/shackle offer, Mucho Beefy! Also, Torasport has a really nice website.

By Ron on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 10:01 am: Edit

Can you tell I was not a philosophy major

Ron

Do it naturally

By Jose A Cabrera (Jcabrera) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 10:06 am: Edit

Steve, I will give it try one more time:
KARMAUTU
These are two of five orders or processes which operate in the physical and mental realms
KARMA = The Pali term Karma literally means action or doing. Any kind of intentional action whether mental, verbal, or physical, is regarded as Karma.
UTU = Physical (inorganic) order, e.g., seasonal phenomena of winds and rains.

How close am I now?

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 10:25 am: Edit

Steve said that it had to do w/ Sumerian mythology.... that's what triggered my Mesopotamian references.

Utu is "the Sun God", and also of Justice. He was the son of Nanna, also known as the moon god Sin, and Ningal his wife. Utu, Nanna, and several others mad eup the "Seven who Decreed the Fates".

Hmmm.... "I could look for the name Zuul in the usual literature. Spates Catalog. Tobin's Spirit Guide." Maybe then I'd turn over the right stone...


-L

By Ron on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 10:47 am: Edit

Utu carried a saw.

Ron

Bad karma to cut down a tree

By SamS on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 11:05 am: Edit

I have only been reading the posts. And since I have little grasp of the English culture, let alone ancient Summerian, I will refrain from guessing!!! But Ron..once one knows the reason...it becomes Truism, instead of malarky!! HAHA

But anybody who can pull out a Ghostbuster quote and use it context is worth noting....not loudly mind you.

Sam

By Ron on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 11:17 am: Edit

Ron..once one knows the reason...it becomes Truism, instead of malarky!! HAHA

I enjoy these challenges and I could use a worklamp.

Ron

PS a little google is a dangerous thing

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 12:38 pm: Edit

Gee, thanks, Sam.... I think..... ;-)


Chris - spend too many years in college, and things start to stick eventually, even if it is, as Ron pointed out, the ability to use a search engine....

And I need a worklamp, too....


-L

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 09:21 am: Edit

hey all-

the shackles got here yesterday - BUT now my bloody printer is out of black ink - need to run out and get some more - with any luck will have a few units outs today - all those who have yet to conact me, please do so i would hate to have to baby sit for no money!

steve
ps - the name game is kinda anti-climactic- if i told you what it really meant - it would be like - "oh, i see, you're nuts?" thanks for trying anyway. some of you got really really close! whew!

ron- no i don't work in the transit business!

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 09:54 am: Edit

Steve,

What's the payment plan? Will you ship them with an invoice or something?

Dean

By jmon on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 05:34 am: Edit

steve...great news..wil we receive an invoice for this? thanks

By Steve (Steve2) on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 11:38 am: Edit

ok here are the shackles leaving today

1: kim
2: karen
3: brain walsh
4: dean
5: eduardo
6: sammy
7: al
8: al
9: paul

so i am missing
10: john c
11: tc
12: andrew

waiting for phone call
13: javier

13:

By Steve (Steve2) on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 02:58 pm: Edit

for those of you sending in checks

steve miller
c/o torasport
2118 wilshire blvd
suite 1086
santa monica ca 90403

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 03:53 pm: Edit

Stonking job steve - check's on the way.
Now, got any jate rings?
Dean

By KJ on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 05:50 pm: Edit

I'll add my guess as to the true meaning of Steve's secret persona. Does it mean, "Do it in the dirt"?

"Mud"? "Road", you crazy Beatle????
Do it lifted? With swampers in rompers? With spacers? With HD springs and things? With a winch? With a Grinch? Out Kyle's window while doing the limbo? On the roof rack on your back? In a cheap J**P with a cheap creep? (NAH!) Hey Kim, pass the Margaritas! LOL!

Karen

By Javier Velador (Jvelador) on Thursday, September 06, 2001 - 08:07 pm: Edit

oops, sorry Steve. I'll call you tomorrow morning so I can swing by and pick it up.

Javier

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 03:23 am: Edit

Karen,
Pure poetry!

By Steve (Steve2) on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 07:15 am: Edit

i will reveal the meaning of my name the next time i'm in moab. so if you happened to be standing next to me, you will hear it....

still need john c's address

steve

By Roverine on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 12:11 pm: Edit

Just got the receiver shackle - VERY NICE! BTW: I mailed you the check this morning, Steve.
Once again, you are "TOO KEWL"!

Karen - yep, it's almost marggie time! Hey, wait, I guess it's way beyond that time already out on your end of the states - I'll need to catch up! (after I visit a parts store). BTW - re the thread on "what do you do" : I had a strong hunch about you - knew it! Anyone with good horse sense will be a natural with the Rover!

Kim - No horses anymore, sold them when I went to college, and never did get anymore (waaaahhh!)

By KJ on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 03:30 pm: Edit

Anyone standing next to Steve at Moab....don't strike a match, eh?

Kim, I'm your mirror image! I quit college to KEEP my horse, LOL! Hey, fire up that blender and let's go on a bender!

Karen ;)

By Roverine on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 04:45 pm: Edit

Unbelievable! This is great!! Too bad we're so far apart, but better incentive to plan a trip someday!

Kim
(Marggie in hand)

By KJ on Friday, September 07, 2001 - 05:42 pm: Edit

I forget, what is the geographical center of the U.S.? We'll all meet there. I'll drink my first Margarita with you, I've actually never had one....

Karen, Margie virgin ;)

P.S. You'll know me by the vat of White Russians I bring though!

By Steve (Steve2) on Saturday, September 08, 2001 - 08:09 am: Edit

right - here is the list of people and status. all shackles have shipped - save javier who's picking his up

1: kim - paid
2: tc - $28.44
3: javier - picking up
4: sam - $30.30
5: john c $30.30
6: al - paid
7: al - paid
8: jmon - $$28.44
9: dean $30.30
10: karen - paid
11: andrew $30.30
12: paul - paid
13: brian - $28.44

those who have not paid - please call me monday with a credit card # OR mail me a check to the address a few posts up

thanks
steve

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 - 06:22 am: Edit

updates:

people still who need to pay

1: sam - sending a check
2: john c ? hope you and you loved ones are ok!
3: jmon -?
4: andrew - ?

thanks and take care

By Andrew Roane on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 - 07:59 am: Edit

Mailed the check on Monday, September 10th. Have not received the shackle as of yesterday afternoon. Have not been home today to check the mail.

Thanks,

Andrew
Raleigh, NC

By jmon on Wednesday, September 12, 2001 - 07:03 pm: Edit

jmon here..sent the check yesterday received the shackle yesterday...thanks so much..very beefy..steve..thank you again

By KJ on Thursday, September 13, 2001 - 05:06 pm: Edit

Yo, STEVE!!!! I got the shackle today, thanks! Until I learn it's proper use, I intend to use it for bicep curls. It's a BIG honkin' thang! Damned well shiny, too! David is impressed, too. Thanks again.....

Karen

By AL on Thursday, September 13, 2001 - 05:50 pm: Edit

Hi Steve,
Thx again recived those mighty schackles.
Hell, if nobody sends u a check all take the rest.
Good Job
Thx

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Tuesday, September 18, 2001 - 08:17 am: Edit

Steve, I got the shackle yesterday. Thanks a lot! Great! I will send payment today.

Thanks again,

John C.

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 11:10 am: Edit

john

you waited to get the shackle before sending a check? thanks so much for not trusting me.

steve

By KJ on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 06:27 pm: Edit

Hey Steve! Where you been? We NEED you dear, you're our "Color Commentary" dude!

Karen ;) P.S "Mah shackle sure is purty and shiny!"

By Steve (Steve2) on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 06:36 pm: Edit

karen

i was wearing that hat. you know the one with the two holes on the side so my ears could stick out? like a jackass? i dog eared discoweb on an older url short cut which had been closed off. i kept trying to pull up discoweb and i got page no longer available. so finally today i just typed in the www. and got the site. jeez - see what happens when you mess around with hugs that transcend space and time? becareful - somewhere in the 5th dimension is the other half to my brain (along with my common sense and winning lotto ticket!)

steve
steve

By KJ on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 06:44 pm: Edit

OMG, is THAT what happened???? S'O.k., we've been hard at work here solving the World's problems since you've been floating in the Cosmos.

Karen ;)

By jmon on Wednesday, September 19, 2001 - 07:55 pm: Edit

already used my shackle this weekend up on the deer valley trail. Pulled a stock grand cheep cherokee out of a lil situation....thanks steve...its a goood one! bear valley area is a great place to take rovers..tons of trails

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 05:51 am: Edit

>"already used my shackle this weekend up on the deer valley trail. Pulled a stock grand cheep cherokee out of a lil situation"

that brings tears to my eye!

By John Cinquegrana (John_C) on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 07:20 am: Edit

Steve, I was waiting to get an email from you with the S&H, then I realized that you posted it on this thread. Sorry about that. I was planning on sending a check and then receiving the shackle. I never doubted you...I really appreciate you sending it, it looks great on my Rangie.

Thanks again and sorry for the delay (mail has been pretty slow these days).

John C.