By Jarrod Leonard on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 04:17 am: Edit

I apologize to everybody for the tired string, but I need some possible answers from the wise ones....
Added OME HD springs over the weekend and planned on staying with 245/75s, but just go with a beefier tire. Well once the springs were installed, I gained more lift than expected - an average of about 2 1/4" all the way around and foolishly let my brother (Goodyear Rep, of course) talk me in to a bigger tire. I went with a 265/75 Goodyear Workhorse and the the truck looks 200% better!! The bad thing is that under full flex the back tires rub. I trimmed all the inner fender lip and thought that would solve the problem and was ready to put the front tire up on something again. AGAIN I hear that horrible sound a lot of you know too well - damn tire is still rubbing! I go out to take a look and the tire is just barely too wide to stuff inside the rear fender well.
So.....any possible solutions guys? (besides the obvious option of trying to swap these tires for a 235/85) I know, I know, I got greedy and tried to go too big.
As always, any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

By Jarrod Leonard on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 07:53 am: Edit

Anyone?

By Robert Mann (Oldscout) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 07:59 am: Edit

The spring will settle in the first 1000 miles and you will loose a 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch. Trim untill they fit or return to 235/85

By Jarrod Leonard on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:45 am: Edit

I was kind of thinking the same thing - that the springs will settle and make my problems worse.

I know you are trying to help and I appreciate that, but, no offense, "trim until they fit or try a different tire" does not help me much. Maybe I should rephrase the question...has anybody found a way to fit these tires without going beyond the standard inner fender lip trimming?
If not - 235/85s (doing the math) are narrower, but they are also 16mm taller than 245/75s. This seems like it would also cause a problem, but I see that the tech section says it can be done. Any experince with 235/85s out there?

By Mike B. on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 09:58 am: Edit

Are you on the Stock Rims? I know the American Racing Steel wheels push the rear wheel out about an inch. So, you will rub worse on a set of American Racing wheels than with the stock wheels.

Also, you might try going with a taller bump stop. This will prevent your rear wheel from pushing up into the wheel well quite so far. This may serve to eliminate your rubbing. I am using the 3.5" bumpstops from SafariGard (about $75.00 for the bumpstops and the adapter plate). They also make a 4.5" bumpstop. (However, I'm running 245/75/R16s on American Racing Steel Wheels, so your situation will differ slightly.)

If you can make your own bracket, you can buy any bumpstop and adapt it to your Disco and save a ton of money (Posted to keep Perrone Ford from having a cow over my recommending $G to anyone).

LoL,
Mike B.

Perrone: We love you man!

By Jarrod Leonard on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 10:10 am: Edit

Wow, Mike, sounds like a lot of work! Just kidding, thank you for the input.
I am running stock rims and they are real close to stuffing, but will not QUITE fit. The more I read in this board, the more I see that I just may be better off trading the tires in for the 235/85s while I still can. I just like the look of the wider tire soooo much better.
I guess I may know the answer to this dilemna, but I just don't like it - pizza cutters.

By Marc on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 01:55 pm: Edit

Jarrod-

If it makes you feel any better, I like the looks of the taller and skinier ties better. Not on all trucks, but I think it suits the disco.

-Marc

By Axel Haakonsen (Axel) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 02:03 pm: Edit

You can also add a set of spacers, which would give you a little more lift, and a bit more room for stuffage. Kyle runs 265/75/16 right now, I don't think he is rubbing any, but you may want to ask him about it.

Axel

By John on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 02:05 pm: Edit

265/75 pretty much requires a 3" lift for stuffage clearance.

By Marc on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 02:21 pm: Edit

I am also interested in the 235/85's. I have OME MD w/ 10mm spacers all around. I am thinking since they are the same width as the stock 235/70's they might not require as much trimming and maybe just some bumpstops. I dont really do any really hardcore articulation like some of you guys. Any thoughts?

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 02:55 pm: Edit

>"I am thinking since they are the same width as the stock 235/70's they might not require as much trimming and maybe just some bumpstops. I dont really do any really hardcore articulation like some of you guys. Any thoughts?"

right on

By Mike B. on Tuesday, September 04, 2001 - 03:11 pm: Edit

Jarrod:

Can you post a picture of where you are rubbing? Maybe it will spawn some ideas. Is it just the rear of the rear fenderwell? If so, you can trim a lot before anybody will notice. Believe me, I know!

There is an old saying "Faint Heart Never Won Fair Lady". I think that somehow this applies to you. If you want the big tires, I'm sure you can find a way to make them work. Remember, this is your dream vehicle. Stick with it!

Thanks,
Mike B.

By Jarrod Leonard on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 04:00 am: Edit

Ahhh - the passion of the Disco owner!
Thanks for the feedbacks guys.

My enthusiastic brother from Goodyear got me into this mess so now he is helping me out of it by swapping the tires from the 265/75 to the 235/85. It sounds like this will alleviate the problem and since I have already done all my inner fender well trimming I will cross my fingers and hope for the best.

When we bought this truck it was something my fiance loved and I saw potential in. Seems like I will slowly transform it into MY dream truck and further from her image of a nice refined Rover. She will learn to love it though!

Thanks everyone.

By Marc on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 04:07 am: Edit

Jarrod,

Post some pics when you are done - I'd like to see them, since I am thinking about the same tires.

By Jarrod Leonard on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 04:41 am: Edit

Marc,
I will do that. Just be patient though since I will have to start a new roll of film (I used up the previous roll on before and after pics of the 265/75s)

By Discosaurus (Discosaurus) on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 05:09 am: Edit

As John said above, that size tire needs a lot of lift - 3"+. It's a pretty popular size on the west coast where it's not too muddy, although I still prefer having more sidewall to protect the wheel rim edges from rock hits.

IMO, running mega-tall bumpstops to avoid the stuffage causing the rub is not a good idea. Stuffage is a good thing, maybe even better then flex. Eliminating stuff is a real good way to unbalance your truck in articulation situations. The man who said "trim 'till they fit" is pretty much right on. It's either that or new tall springs and all the other baggage that goes along with that.

keith
discosaurus

By Redsrover (Redsrover) on Wednesday, September 05, 2001 - 06:04 am: Edit

Jarrod,

Add OME Sping Packers. These are nylon spacers to fit at the top of each spring between the spring and the chassis. They come in 10mm and 5mm widths. Go to 4x4connection.com to find them on line. I got them on my HD OME setup and they made fitting 235 85's a breeze. I had 245 75s on board up until last month and had trimmed about and inch. No additional trimming is needed with my setup and the spacers.

Red