Help, Engine won't start

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 01:33 pm: Edit

Just got off work. I got the engine started and before I got a chance to put in gear, it dies. After that, I tried several times but it won't start. I went and check the engine shut off swith. I pressed the switch down and heard a click but it still won't start. Any help is appreciated.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 01:34 pm: Edit

It is a 96 Disco and it is the fuel shut off switch I pressed

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kyle on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 01:35 pm: Edit

Hold the throttle down a little and see what it sounds like. What year is it?


Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 01:38 pm: Edit

It is a 96.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 01:45 pm: Edit

For the first crank, you can hear the engine is trying and after that, it just cranks.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kyle on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 02:02 pm: Edit

ok
Try one more time , hold it to the floor. Be prepared to let off it it kicks over. Let me know how that sounds


Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 02:34 pm: Edit

Nothing. I think I am not getting any fuel in the system.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kyle on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 02:43 pm: Edit

ok , go to the rear and see if you can smell gas at the tail pipe. When they get flooded it sounds pretty much the same.. Also , there is a schrader valve under the hood on the fuel rail that you can depress and check for pressure. Can you hear the pump running at all?

Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 03:09 pm: Edit

No, I can't smell the gas at the tail pipe. I went to the back of the truck and I can't hear anything. Where is the schrader (is it next to the fuel shut off valve) and what does it looks like?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kyle on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 03:14 pm: Edit

Its up on the fuel rail in the intake of the engine. Looks like a regular old bicycle tire valve , has a plastic cap on it. You should get some bleed off when you press the little stem in. There is a connection in the drivers side rear fender well for the fuel pump. The connections there sometimes get corroded , check it..

Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 03:23 pm: Edit

I found it. I pressed it and nothing comes out.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By kyle on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 03:53 pm: Edit

You check that connection in the drivers side rear fender well? Take it apart and check the connections there.. You have a voltmeter or tst light??

Kyle

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 04:33 pm: Edit

Is the connection bolt to the fender well? I can see a big black plastic connection with several wires come out of each side. Is that the one? I tried but it won't come apart. I am home now. I got a ride from a friend. I will go back and try it tomorrow. How do I check it with the test light?

Kyle, thanks for all the help.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By jec on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 06:35 pm: Edit

this happened to my 95 last week. check the 15 amp fuel pump fuse under the hood. mine was blowing repeatedly due to a short in the wire between the fuel pump relay and the emission canister purge valve. never could find the short - just cut the wire and bypassed it. the tech at the dealer said he's seen wires get pnched under the dash before. good luck
John

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 08:19 pm: Edit

John, Thanks for your input. I checked the fuse and it is okay. I still need to check the connection in the rear fender well.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Thursday, September 20, 2001 - 08:39 pm: Edit

Kyle,

What tool do I need in order to remove the rear fender well to get to the connection? If the connection is okay, what's next? Thanks.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Drew on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 12:57 am: Edit

Have you checked the fuel pump and fuel pump harness? This is a common problem for discos. If you remove the carpet in the cargo area you will see a black pannel there. Remove the panel and there will be the pump. Disconnect the wire harness that leads to the pump. If you see that the tip of the harness is burned you need to replace the harness and the pump as well. What you can also do while you have the panel off is have a friend try to start the car and you can listen to see if you hear the pump working. If you don't, you might have to replace the pump.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 04:20 am: Edit

No, not yet. I will do it this morning. If I need the pump and the harness, where is the best place to get it? Thanks

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tmsltd on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 05:54 am: Edit

I have two fuel pump kits (pump module, harness, brass nuts and olives) and I can get one out in today's UPS. The parts are Genuine LandRover.
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trevor griffiths
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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 09:13 am: Edit

Just got my engine started. I went to the back of the truck and removed the black panel to expose the pump. I pound on it couple times (lightly) and then I heard a hissing sound for about 5 seconds. I turn the key and the engine just started. I guess it is a loss connection or a pump that is on its last leg. Thanks for all your help. It is greatly appreciated.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Robert Mann (Oldscout) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 09:24 am: Edit

Nice work guys!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By wine445 on Sunday, September 30, 2001 - 05:47 pm: Edit

TC-
I was reading your fuel pump problem. I took my Disco to a Land Rover mechanic and they thought it was the fuel pump, so they replaced it. A year later I was experiencing the same problems. I finally realized that it was not the fuel pump. It was the connector under the rear driver side tire. Apparently the connector gets hot and expands. I've bypassed the connector and spliced the three wires using butt connectors. This last for eight months. My next step is to contact Land Rover and find out if there is a recall on the wiring harness to the fuel pump.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tc on Sunday, September 30, 2001 - 07:26 pm: Edit

Thanks for the info. I have replaced my fuel pump and will keep my eyes on the connector. I am not sure where is the connector but I will look for it. Please let me know about your finding on the recall. Thanks again.


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