By William Turner (Wturner) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:01 am: Edit

We off road enthusiest have to apriciate this, well at least a little bit!

By RVR OVR (Tom) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:06 am: Edit

Well, there is a lot of animosity towards hummers. Personally, I would love to take that puppy for a ride, especially in the sand.

Tom

By Ron on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:07 am: Edit

IN the ghetto . . .


ron

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:12 am: Edit

Those things are all over the road here in Scottsdale, AZ. There's a Hummer dealership about 2 miles from my house. They sure look badass. If I had the cash, I'd get it and put my wife and baby daughter in it. Unfortunately, I have only seen ONE off-road; in Sedona and I heard the guy driving complaining to his wife about all the dust getting on his (fly yellow) paint!

By William Turner (Wturner) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:17 am: Edit

Could those big ass rigs run with the Discos in Moab. They seem too big.

The D' 110 seems too big too, but it didn't struggle nearly as much as the Discos on the video I just bought. I guess the eye is deceptive.

By Ron on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:20 am: Edit

D110

D110

Woo hoo.

Ron

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:23 am: Edit

Yeah, Ron - that's a ghetto-bustin brush bar. Let's you scoot out of the hood when the riots get cookin

Hummer is wide wide wide, which often makes it too big to fit on established trails. 110s are pretty long, which can affect breakover angle, but no wider. Hummers are made for the great wide open deserts. But they're not very fast - check out the Lamborghini LMA for Hummer-wide looks and killer desert speed. Need even mo money, though.

By William Turner (Wturner) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 11:39 am: Edit

I heard a model of those Lambo's have like 800 horses (WOW). And can sit sideways at almost 60* without flipping (may have been a tall tale).

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 12:23 pm: Edit

tale does sound a little tall. They do have a lambo V12, though, and they are low and wide, with 300-series tires. Saw one once on the streets of Cleveland, of all places. Also got to play in one here in Phx at an auto auction a couple years ago.

By lynden on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 12:32 pm: Edit

That brush guard is kind of weird and frankly it scares me... I don't know why, but it scares me!
Lynden

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 12:48 pm: Edit

you should see it when it's folded forward so you can open the hood. It looks like it would very effectively bounce "brush" off the hood and through the windshield. But it looks cool, and that's the smack. You should also see it in shiny chrome

By Tony (Gremlin) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 03:07 pm: Edit

Did'nt you guys know that bar is a secret military gun mount that is utilizied by undercover intel agencys (note the black color) here in the USA. lol:-)

By jon on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 03:18 pm: Edit

i thought that bar doubled as bbq grill for what ever you hit while driving such as deer, elk, bears, etc...

By KJ on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 06:02 pm: Edit

No, you guys have it all wrong. The brush bar is really the baby changing table!

Karen ;)

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Friday, September 21, 2001 - 08:04 pm: Edit

It is a grill to cook food for the people that have to try and get it unstuck from the two trees that the driver thought he could squeez through on the trail.

By Ali on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 04:38 am: Edit

That's where we strap Bin Laden for the public flogging!

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 05:32 am: Edit

I'd assume that the reason for such is the fact that the front end is fiberglass. The military expected it to 'blow apart' upon impact to lessen the blow to occupants. The military can afford to replace the front section any time it hits a tree too hard. An average joe who coughs up enough moolah to drive one of those off-roadin', probably doesn't want to buy a new hood/front-end everytime he taps it a bit hard.

IMHO....

-L


PS: I drove them back when I was in the Corps... yeah, they'll go, but they're too wide IMO, hard to get up between trees around here.... Would be best in hard-desert IMO.

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 05:40 am: Edit

GMC is offering 0% financing on all their cars and trucks. Hmm, $78,000 at 0% for 60 months still equalls $1,300 to damn much.

By William Turner (Wturner) on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 06:09 am: Edit

Someone somewhere told me that the military purchased some Landies simply because the Hummer was too wide to go "everywhere." Of course, if they did, they didn't advertise it at all, to save face I guess.

If you spend millions in tax dollars to contract someone like AM General to build the "best 4x4 on earth" you don't want people knowing that you had to buy Land Rovers to go where you can't go with the Hummer.

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 06:15 am: Edit

I also read some where that they are commisioning Ford/GMC to build them some special pickup trucks.

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 06:29 am: Edit

Now that Ford owns LR, and given the UK's support of the US, we may very well see Land Rover popping up in the military now.

It is true that the Rangers use Rovers instead of Hummers on long-range patrol ops, maybe they'll expand it's use... Hmmmm......


-L

By William Turner (Wturner) on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 06:58 am: Edit

Throughout history Ford and Hertz have had a good business relationship, remember the Hertz Shelby Cobra Mustangs!

Well, I just saw a commercial for Hertz's new luxury line including...

Land Rover (now owned by Ford)

Jaguar (also owned by Ford)
&
Lincoln (always been Ford)

Way to go Ford marketing team. Now I can rent a Disco rather than tear up mine!

By lynden on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 08:54 am: Edit

Yeah, now you can rent a disco and show up w/ a different color disco every weekend for off road meetings. Those jeep guys will be like, "uh, you had a white one last week didn't you? How much do you make buying a bunch of $300,000 Land Rovers..."

By David on Monday, September 24, 2001 - 08:58 am: Edit

My insurance company rented me a Disco II last week while mine was in the shop.....from Enterprise Rent a car.