By RollOver Rover on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 04:46 pm: Edit

Will a D90 Bumper and brushgard work on a D1? Trying to find cheaper but reliable bumper options!

Roll Over Rover

By Kyle on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 04:47 pm: Edit

Hmmm , please dont do it!!!


Kyle

By Roll Over Rover on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 04:52 pm: Edit

Dont do what?

By Kyle on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 05:22 pm: Edit

Put a defender bumper on that disco. Or even try.. HAve your stock bumper modified instead. Its more unique and wont cost much..

Kyle

By John Lee on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 07:14 pm: Edit

EEEEEEEEK!

This idea (D90 bumper on D1 body) has actually been done before. Those with acute memories will still have nightmares about it. Unpretty.

By Steve (Steve2) on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 07:31 pm: Edit

weren't the camel trophy disco equipped with d90 type brush guards?

steve

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Tuesday, September 25, 2001 - 07:52 pm: Edit

steve, those were "D90 style" if you wanna call it that. what roll over rover wants to do is something else.... it's THE actual D90 setup...

and all i can say is

By Danno on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 03:29 am: Edit

Steve,
the brush guards used on the CT disco were Brownchurch.
i was going to get them from Rover-X a coupe years back.

By John on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 05:48 am: Edit

The D-90 bumper mounts with vertical holes as opposed to the Disco horizontal mount holes, it would mean extending,welding and drilling of new mounting brackets, but still looks awkward after all the work.

By Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 08:27 am: Edit

Kyle;

any suggestions on modifications for a D1 bumper?

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 09:49 am: Edit

Not Brownchurch (as I've heard others say, too), but Mantec made the CT Disco bars....

http://www.mantec.co.uk/protect/nudgea.htm


-L

By kyle on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 10:49 am: Edit

Depends on what you want it to do for ya Chris. You can get a winch in there , you can stiffen it up. You can do pretty much anything with that stock one with a little cutting and welding.


Kyle

By Danno on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 12:35 pm: Edit

i wonder if the CT Disco bumpers were made by Mantec and the CT Defenders made by Brownchuch?

http://www.brownchurch.co.uk/BC_Acc.html

By Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) on Thursday, September 27, 2001 - 04:30 am: Edit

Nothing special - would like to use a highlift on it, maybe a d ring or two....

not quite ready for a winch yet.........

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Thursday, September 27, 2001 - 06:57 pm: Edit

Danno,

Would make sense.... that way they're spreading around the workload, get Brownchurch to do the Defenders and Mantec to do the Discos....


Kyle,

What would it take to get, say, a Husky mounted on a stock Disco bumper?

-L

By Warren on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 09:13 am: Edit

I have a stock Brush Bar and I took the End Caps Off And Hacked the Ends of the Bumper Off. Eventually I will get some bars soldered on to the front.

By Kyle on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 10:13 am: Edit

Hmmm , a little work leslie but I ran something similar for awhile . I had the RE on with the stock bumper for awhile. A center mount must be made and the stock bumper grafted back to it.

Kyle

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 10:17 am: Edit

What I was thinking was similar, but (maybe) simpler... a mount for the winch behind the bumper, but not depending on it... just the fairlead in the bumper itself. Is there enough room to squeeze such in? Hmmmm..... maybe not... It'd be tight...

-L

By Ron on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 11:15 am: Edit

L

It will fit provided you mount it low enough (below the tranny cooler finned line thingy) but it is a royal PITA to make anything fit as you have to reroute some lines.

They make a winch plate for RR (different from the ramsey one) for such an application. The plate is almost identical to a low profile D-90 winch plate so you "might" be able to use one of those. The Disco front end is the same as far as mounting it.

I got a multimount front reciever for the RR so I dropped the idea.

By Ron on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 11:18 am: Edit

If you are talking Husky no way without moving it forward or down a
lot.

RN has a RR with a husky on the front and I have a pic of the Disco
with the concealed husky mount which is close to what you want.

By John Lee on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 12:10 pm: Edit

Hey, what the hell is a Disco with a Husky doing in Korea? I thought they only had the Kia Sportage there?

By John Lee on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 12:22 pm: Edit

Ron,

Are you sure that's a Husky? I didn't notice it at first, but it looks like some other Superwinch. Where's the motor on that thing? The Husky has the motor on the starboard side.

By Ron on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 12:27 pm: Edit

John Lee,

Now that you mention it I think you may be correct.

I know SW made some PTO driven and hydraulic winches maybe that is one? Or an earlier model husky?

By John Lee on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 12:37 pm: Edit

Yeah, I don't know what it is either. I do know that Superwinch makes an extensive line of winches we don't see here in the USA. Maybe that's their Kia Sportage model?

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Friday, September 28, 2001 - 03:23 pm: Edit

If cost was no object, I'd be swapping bumpers and would probably go with a SW G10 Plus. I'd rather have the G10 Plus anyway, but it'd about double what a Husky would run. Ouch!

So, I was thinking of going w/ a Husky... but I'm not sold yet (and I'm not trying to start a Ramsey vs Superwinch versus Warn versus Milemarker, etc!!!)

Ron, I like that idea.... it doesn't have to go through the bumper, below would be okay. Minimal visual effect, because SWMBO is saying no anyway, so I need to at least be low-key in appearance.

Is there a winch that would be better for this particular idea? To mount behind a stock bumper instead of an ARB or a SG or a RTE or a TMJ?

-L

By hanchung on Saturday, September 29, 2001 - 07:33 am: Edit

john,
maybe it's a samsung winch... you know samsung makes everything.

By Ron on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 03:30 am: Edit

Is there a winch that would be better for this particular idea?

The little ones without an intergrated solinoid

X9
M8000
XD9000

Ron

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 04:15 am: Edit

That's what I was afraid of....



The G10 would work, since it's a rebuilt X9, but OUCH! on the wallet.

There are other modified X9s out there, too, improved over the stock one, that are cheaper than the G10... Hmmmm......

What gets me, though, is that although the Huskys have the solenoid hanging off of the side, they still looks smaller than the X9 variants.

Hmmm..... may be worth looking at a bigger penny-pile first....



-L

By Ron on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 04:18 am: Edit

L,

I think G10 is overrated and way overpriced for what it is (a new motor and some O ring seals). The Husky has a solinoid that is seperate (which is a flaming POS (litterally)). The big thing on the side is the motor

Ron

If you put an X9 up to a husky you will see the husky is substantially bigger

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 04:48 am: Edit

So, skip the G10, and go w/ a X9, IF (note, a BIG IF) I stick w/ trying to get it hidden behind/below a stock bumper??

-L

By Ron on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 04:50 am: Edit

L,

Thats what I would say if you are going hidden mount.

Or ideally get a Koenig for the series and let the series winch the disco out

Ron

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 05:07 am: Edit

Gotta get the Series running again first!!!


Actually, I have plans for a third Rover now... (or actually a 4th/5th, uh, maybe 6th? )....

I'm wanting to keep the current Disco to be my daily driver, with family trips etc., and get the SIII to be a 'cheap Defender'.... (I've just found 2 88" IIa Rovers in a barn... they're beaters, but I 'think' I can get 'em just for hauling them out of there... that'd be 2 more, though it'll probably end up being one to rebuild w/ extra parts from the other). The wife's been hinting that she's wanting a Freelander, but that'll be awhile before we go that far...

Anyway, I'm hatching plans for another Disco... LONG way off, but I'm at the drawing board on it... Have Disco #1 be the driver and Disco #2 be a hacked- off-road hog

That's why the winch for the current Disco doesn't have to be a powerhorse, just something for light self-recovery, that'd be better than using a hi-lift.... it'll still hit the dirt regularly just from work, but I won't be 'trying' to push the envelope with it. The SIII will catch the brunt of the risky stuff, but the other Disco will be, literally, a toy for me and DG to play with... Not a new one, not a pricy one.... as simple of a one as I can find when the time comes, a high-mileage, blown-engine truck that I can pick up for cheap and do lots to it w/o thinking about the payments that I'm making on my nice driver....

-L