By Ho Chung (Ho) on Wednesday, September 26, 2001 - 09:02 am: Edit

finally installed the new Michelin Cross Terrain 265/70-16 in the minivan. rides nice, quiet and handles well.

from looking at the tread pattern, seems like on the trail, it'll perform better than the XPC, LTX MS or the LTX AT.

By britdaz on Sunday, September 30, 2001 - 06:11 pm: Edit

Ho,
I was looking at replacing my disco 96 tires with the Michelin 4x4 xpc. Do you think the cross terrain may work better. Very limited off-road, snow and rain in Colorado.

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 07:47 am: Edit

i'll try to post some pics of the tread pattern.
in snow, i believe the cross terrains will do better than the XPCs.

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 07:51 am: Edit

http://www.crossterrainsuv.ca/index.html

By Bill Bettridge (Billb) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 07:54 am: Edit

http://www.michelin.com/us/eng/tire/auto/suv/180view.html

another one

By Jinwoo on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:00 am: Edit

Is there big difference between S and H rating?
I'm asking you since stock XPC are in H rating and crossterrain is in S rating.
Any thoughts???

Jinwoo
95 Discovery with stock XPC need to be replaced soon

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:04 am: Edit

S = 112 mph
H = 130 mph

By Steve (Steve2) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:16 am: Edit

ho

so ar you saying these are better than the much vaunted bfg a/t ko's?

steve

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:44 am: Edit

steve, i've had the BFG ATs long time ago, and i wasn't impressed at all. the new KOs tread aren't that different. so i dont' think they are that big of a deal.
personally, i'd prefer the new michelins.
the new cross terrains has many many littel zig zag sippings that seem to work quite well on the trail.

By Steve (Steve2) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:50 am: Edit

hmmmmm.....was almost all set on pirelli mt's now i have to rethink- ho? do you know anything about the toyo open country at's. they have these off square tread pattern that is supposed to be the cats pj's.

steve

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:54 am: Edit

pirelli MT?
go with MTs.
if you think you gonna get some in-between tire for on and off-road, you won't be happy with neither. either go with some MT, or some road tire like cross terrain.
toyo open AT what? that sound gimmicky to me.

By Steve (Steve2) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 09:57 am: Edit

so ho-

do you have two sets of rims and tires - one for city one for play? or are you using only one with the xterrains? obviously you went with the smaller size vs/ the 265-70 - was this to achieve a more balanced set up?

thanks
steve

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 10:03 am: Edit

oh no, the cross terrains are for the minivan.
sorry if i confused you.
i only have MTs on right now, as i dont' see the need for a "road" set of tires for chickety.

i used to have 2 sets previously, but after changing back and forth twice, i just kept the mudders, and they are still on. although they grew taller for some reason...

By ryan on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 10:12 am: Edit

265/70 on a minivan?!?!? What kind of beast is this van? Like a 15 passenger ecoline?

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 10:16 am: Edit

it's the minivan that dont' got the sliding door.

By Steve (Steve2) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 10:57 am: Edit

oh - they really are for a minivan?!? - i thought you were using minvan as a nickname for the disco II.

now i feel better for still wanting mt's..

significantly less confused..
steve

By Wes Legaspi (Wes) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 12:14 pm: Edit

I think Ho's referring to his ML...is that a 320 or a 430?

By Steve (Steve2) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 12:26 pm: Edit

ah - now it is making alot more sense. the tire size, all the other clues etc. thanks wes.

steve

By keith on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 11:41 am: Edit

Any info on the Michelin "Syncrone" that is replacing the 4x4 XPC. Our local Michelin wholesaler had 4 255-55-18's. They looked quite a bit different than the XPC's and were stamped "France" which means they are made overseas. Unfortunaely he had no performance info on them, no specs...he even called the central N.A. office and they had very little on it. Whats with the secrecy? I figure I would challenge my Discowebites to accept this mission!
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By p m on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 12:24 pm: Edit

Cross-Terrain's got pretty dull-looking thread pattern... not that mudders' is very amusing, either.

i guess they felt the need for a tire that has a similar sidewall look but cheaper than XPC.

XPC's an excellent road tire. Better than BFG A/T. Speaking of which, why would anyone want a BFG A/T on a Disco? The mudders aren't _that_ noisy, they just barely cover up for the LT230 whine

peter

By David G. on Wednesday, October 24, 2001 - 12:52 pm: Edit

Anybody intrested in Michelin 750X16 XZLs, I have 5 new ones mounted on 16X5.5 steel (109)rims