781's or 762's- OME Springs???

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By lynden on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 06:47 am: Edit

I just wanted some opinion on the springs I should get. I'm going to move my rears to front and am buying some OME springs for rear.

Considerations: I have 245/75's now and rub a little when stuffing. I pull two wave runners on occassion w/ the kids and camping gear loaded up.

Question: Should I go w/ the medium/heavy duty or stick w/ the full on heavy duty. The only concern I have is that the HD's don't appear to be as flexible (drop as well). Now I don't do heavy wheelin' now (and may never do some of the stuff you guys do) but I don't want to get stuck w/ the wrong spring. Let me know your thoughts on each.
Thanks,
Lynden

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:00 am: Edit

hi lynden.
i'd go with the 762s.
numerous people i know, including myself, go with MD and some other non-HDs, and always end up swapping for the HDs because we end up carrying a lot of gear.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By lynden on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:08 am: Edit

Thanks Ho, you'll be getting a call soon.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tom P. on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 08:26 am: Edit

Lynden,

I agree with Ho. I recently gave consideration to switching to a lighter rear spring rate, but it's not going to happen. I just can't get by without the 762 load capability.

Tom Proctor
96 Disco
OME 761/762

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 10:46 am: Edit

In April I installed MD OMEs in the rear and HD up front. A couple of weeks ago I swapped out the rear MDs for HDs. Handles a lot better, and fully-loaded with gear doesn't even make a dent in the suspension.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By John Tdi AUS on Monday, October 01, 2001 - 01:13 pm: Edit

Most people rec. OME HD's F&R... How is the on-road ride ... still comfortable? Sway bars on or off? Does anyone run OME HD's with the adjustable rancho's... if so which ones.
Thanks
John (just about to spend up)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tom P. on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 03:40 am: Edit

John Tdi,

I think it goes without saying that HD ride stiffer, but did you look at the *constant load* ratings published by OME? From these values you can get a good idea how the various springs will suit your needs. You might want to check with OME about MD and HD front spring choices for the Tdi. I've heard that a slightly stiffer front spring can be used due to the extra weight(i.e V8-HD = Tdi-MD ?).

I run OME 761-MD-front/762-HD-rear, with an ARB bumper but no winch. The 762-HD's fit my capacity needs very well and the combination of MD fronts gives a comfortable ride with good flex. I have sway bars removed. That topic comes up all the time, but I simply prefer the *feel* without sway bars and do not feel they are necessary.

I'm in the process of reorganizing my onboard gear, so for most of this past Summer it's been driven empty (except for the driver, my two sons and a big kids wagon in back) - still plenty comfortable on road.

Tom Proctor
96 Disco

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 04:09 am: Edit

(i.e V8-HD = Tdi-MD ?).

I am pretty sure the TDI actually weighs more.

Ron

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tom P. on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 04:25 am: Edit

Ron,

That's what I meant. Since the Tdi is heavier, the HD-V8 rate would actually be MD for a Tdi. Get it?

Tom

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 04:46 am: Edit

My bad Tom.

I missread it.

I thought you meant MD is suggested for a TDi, HD is suggested for a V8

To quote Karen

i r idjit

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 06:15 am: Edit

During the week, cargo in my Disco is limited to a few minor tools in the back, plus driver and 20lb sack of spuds (otherwise known as baby) in the back seat. Other than the annoying rear door chatter (gotta re-align that wedge), there are no bad "feelings" associated with OME HD front & rear springs. I have stock bumpers with stock brushbar, no winch, and front & rear swaybars ON. I really like the tight, rigid feel of the handling with the HDs. Stock shocks were soft & squishy - OK for a Lincoln Town Car, but bad for a tall & heavy Disco. When I pack up with full off-road gear or full baby gear, there's no perceivable difference. I dig it the most.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ho Chung (Ho) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 06:27 am: Edit

wonder if some of you will agree... but, the dilemma on HD vs MD springs or MT vs AT tires...

trying to achieve something in between... just doens't work.

with time, most people end up with HDs and MT tires. :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By pk on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 06:41 am: Edit

Yeah Ho,

You are correct. I had the OME MD springs for a couple years. They are fine so long as the sway bars stay on. Otherwise they slinky all over the road.

Also with ANY load in the rear you will quickly start dragging your ass all over.

pk

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 06:48 am: Edit

agree with Ho's spring deduction, but I'm happy with my "in between" solution to AT vs MT tire. I searched far & wide for beefier tread than most ATs, but without the road-wandering, zig-zag MT lug patterns. I think my Big O XTs fit the bill pretty well. I definitely need the traction when I play, but I also need to keep this thing somewhat road worthy for the wife. I also don't need to slog through much mud out here... All that said, I'll probably go for new 235/85 BFG MTs after these shoes wear out and I get the wife her own truck

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ho Chung (Ho) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 06:56 am: Edit

a HA! there you have it, you'll go with 235/85 MTs later. i rest my case.
LOL

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 07:04 am: Edit

Hmmmm...I walked right into that one

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tom P. on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 08:52 am: Edit

I don't know Ho, I don't think I'll ever stray from the Dunlop RT. I'm not into changing wheels to wheel, or wearing out in 20-30k miles...

Tom Proctor
96 Disco

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 08:57 am: Edit

I'm w/ Tom on the Dunlops...
I've gotta admit, I'm on the highway a LOT, but we'll put the R/Ts through their paces off-rad, and rate the improvement....

-L

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ho Chung (Ho) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 08:59 am: Edit

hehe
tom, i know you like your RTs...
and as a matter of fact, i know most people that have RTs love them.

the dunlop RTs and the BFG tracedge are the 2 tires that seem to fit the bill to a lot of people in the east coast for the snow thing that i dont' understadn much about.

but still, i say someday you'll go full boat and get the MTs.... :)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By peter matusov on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 09:01 am: Edit

no steenkin compromises, right ho?

settle on nothing less than OME HD and 235/85 mudders!

one thing here - these tall and slim mudders will dig you down in snow and sand amazingly fast. With chains on them, one turn of the wheels is enough to rest the rover on the frame :)

peter

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ho Chung (Ho) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 09:09 am: Edit

yes, like i said, i know nothing about snow. so that's probably the reason a lot of folks in the east coast go with 215/85-16 Dunlop RTs...
but still, they'll soon see the light, and go with MTs.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 09:17 am: Edit

Snow ain't the main reason Ho although MTs sucking on snow and wet is a big part of it.

With RT its like the best of all worlds:

Good snow traction
Good mud traction
Tough sidewalls
Priced reasonalby
Long wearing
Not loud

While they are by no means swamper boggers I have not been in a situation where someone on RTs got stuck and someone on MTs made it. That says a lot as you give up little of MT performace to get better on road.

Ron

PS people around here have all sizes. In fact at the picnic I saw 215 85, 235 85, 245 75 and 7.50x16 and I know someone else in the club has the 225 75s.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 09:22 am: Edit

I have the 225/75s and I like them.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Tom P. on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 09:25 am: Edit

Ho,

It's that desert stuff that I just can't imagine. It's got to make for some great adventuring and a good opportuninty to use those wacky Michelins ;-)

On the East Coast, the additional width of a 245/75 over a 215/85 is so negligable that is actually becomes an advantage! *If* i ever decide to do gearing, I'll go for 265/75's, but they'll be RT's.

Tom Proctor
96 Disco

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Ron on Tuesday, October 02, 2001 - 09:30 am: Edit

I'll go for 265/75's, but they'll be RT's.

Then you can round out the club :) We will have someone with every practical size of dunlop RT. LOL

Ron


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