By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 07:00 pm: Edit

Is this where the PTO hydraulic pump would attach?

By Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 09:02 pm: Edit

I think so.

By Kyle on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 09:04 pm: Edit

Yup , thats it......


Kyle

By Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 09:06 pm: Edit

I am figuring this shit out

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 10:11 pm: Edit

If I'm nosey and just want to take a peek - when I open that panel will some nasty fluid pour out?

Dean

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 10:19 pm: Edit

Thanks Kyle & Phil.

Also, if I attach the pump here will I still be able to drive around for a while before attaching hoses / adding pump fluids and completing the job in several stages?

By Ron on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 09:05 am: Edit

You should.

The pump don't do nothing unless it is engaged.

You might have to do a little exhaust work too to get it to fit.

Ron

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 01:59 pm: Edit

Ron,

Do you know if there is any oil behind that plate in the photo?

Dean

By Ron on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 02:06 pm: Edit

You will need to see where the fill plug is and see if it is above it.

My guess would be no oil but I am not 100% sure.

One thing is for sure is if you don't seal it right you will have leaks as it splashes around while driving.

Take it off. Who cares its only 90wt.

Ron

By michel on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 04:11 pm: Edit

It will not leak. But you do have to use gasket sealer on the PTO when you install it. See my other post on the basic install before you get started. And yes, you can drive around with the PTO/Pump installed before hooking the hoses and shit up.

Michel

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 04:18 pm: Edit

Michel

Can't see you instructions. Not in the tech section?

Dean

By michel on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 10:29 pm: Edit

damn no,

It was a winch discussion, I'll see if I can find it.

Michel

By michel on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 11:10 pm: Edit

Here's the meat of it.

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Yeah the installation is a bit of a bitch, but you have a couple of choices to make it easier, but there's a drawback.

First the pump size is what makes the install dificult. You could go with a smaller pump and gain more working room but the down side is you get less flow of oil, and or you have to increase the speed of the pump wich means more rpm.

The basic run down of the install is this:
Remove the center console, take off the transfer case shifter/knob.
Unbolt the exaust system were it crosses under the transfer case, and loosen the bolts at the engine.
Unbolt the crossmember and lower it down but don't take it off. A small jack is usefull or a big fucking pry bar for this.
Place a jack under the transfer case (the stock one is fine) and make is snug, then remove the three brackets that hold the transfer case in place. (good time to see if any are toast) Then lower the tranfer case onto the jack and bring it down until you can see the PTO cover on the case.

The rest is basicaly just bolting the PTO on the transfer case, then the pump on the back of the PTO. Before putting the tranfer case back in place this is a good time to intall the hose fittings into the pump, then put the transfer case back. It will fit with about 2" to spare once you have it all back togheter.

Then you run your lines from the pump to the oil reservoir (hope you didn't forget that, about 2 gallons will do ya) and back to the overflow valve, and to the winch. You need the valve cause the pump will put out 3000psi, so it needs to be limited to 1500psi, and depending on the valve of the winch you may be able to handle 3.5 gpm or if you get the beefy one from MM you can increase this to 8gpm.

So, yes it's a big deal, big dollars, but once done you never have to talk about winches again. Unless the winch is not mounted we'll enough on the mount...

Michel

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 07:55 am: Edit

Mich,

Sounds like a plan. Thanks a lot for the instructions. If you have any photos under there, post them up one day.

Dean

By Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 07:57 am: Edit

BTW how is this pump turned on / off?

By michel on Friday, November 09, 2001 - 04:44 pm: Edit

The PTO has a lever, and you get a cable from a tow truck company, it's one of those push pull things and you mount it solid in the vicinity of the hood release, go through the same hole as that cable, and connect it to the lever on the PTO.

Simple and works good once it's attached properly (don't ask) hehe.

Michel