By Jeff Williams on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 03:00 pm: Edit

This week I am going to Rover Assc. to get shocks,springs & tires installed.

1) 265/75/16 bfg ko with ome shocks and heavy springs. Is this my best set up since my Disco is my daily driver. I have heard this set up is alot more stable for the street but still performs good off road.

2) what I really wanted!
235/85/16 Goodyear mtr's with Rovertym 2" Springs and Rancho 9000 shocks. Do I need to change the shock mounts for this set up. I have been told that this set up is not good for driving on the street and is very unstable. Is this true? Do you use this for your daily driver?

So what should I go for?

What are your experiences?

Thanks,
Jeff

By Tom on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 03:45 pm: Edit

You have too much mixed up together! Why not the 235's with the OME or the 265's with the RT? What is making the RT setup unstable and who says so? I have the 3" RT setup with 265's and it is solid.

Tom

By JC on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 03:55 pm: Edit

I have a mix match of different OME springs for the same lift as RT 3"ers and 235/85s. I like it a lot. i also removed all the bars so its tippy and it wanders but damn funny when i start to go into the other lane and see the face on the kid riding in the low rider when he sees me comin over. I might go another bump up in size, 285/75 or 255/85. that will be some hackin though.

Joe Casey

By TMS on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 04:18 pm: Edit

I am running 2" RT with OME HD shocks and 235/85 Dunlop M/T' s on steels and 245/75 Yokohama A/T on Alloys. The Yoko's rub on full steering lock and on the rear fenders. The Dunlops are all good-reasonably quiet and stable. I also removed my bars-the handling was what I expected but tolerable.
Trevor

By Mike on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 04:22 pm: Edit

I have the RoverTym 2" springs with the Rancho RS9000 shocks. I also replaced the rear upper shock mounts ($125.00) to get longer travel and put in the RoverTym Quiet Cones (drop kit). With the anti-sway bars connected, it rides better than stock. It is no more tippy than stock. It can be made to ride harsher (less tippy) by adjusting the shocks to a stiffer ride to suit your specific needs. It takes about 1 minute to adjust all 4 shocks. Best of all, when you go off-roading, simply remove the rear anti-sway bar and the beast will flex like mad. It is a great setup and I could not be happier. I feel that I have the best of both worlds!

If I were you, I would not 'settle' for something that you feel is a compromise. Both solutions will work fine.

Best of luck!
Mike

By Jeff Williams on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 04:35 pm: Edit

Mike,

Wich Ranchos do you have? Do I have to change the shock mounts to do your set up. Or can i add the mounts later.

Thanks for all the info.

any more thoughts, keep them comming.

Jeff

By Mike on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 05:02 pm: Edit

Unless you go with a company that specializes in Rover shocks, you will probably need to replace the rear upper shock mount. The stock rear upper shock mount is a bolt and eye configuration (versus a stud configuration). The Disco rear upper mount is very large (metric, almost 3/4") whereas most other vehicles use a more common 1/2" setup. The RoverTym setup is 1/2". I paid $125.00 for the rear upper shock mounts. The good news is that they just bolt right in and it takes about 15 minutes or less to do both. I did not have to drill or grind anything. I know that you have to do some grinding if you remove the lower shock mounts and that is why I stayed away from replacing the lower units. I used the RS9000 9234's in the rear which gives me 28.5" of flex.

LoL,
Mike

By mike w on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 02:37 am: Edit

I once read in European Car that in the true sports car circles across the pond sway bars don't exist. I am told it is all in the SHOCKS and SPRINGS. I wonder how that applies to my Disco...Hmmmmmmmmmm...Mike W AKA lrover

By Diesel on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 03:57 am: Edit

I have the complete RTE 3" kit. The vehicle leans a little more in the corners since I had to remove the sway bars. It took some getting used to, but I am very comfortable and happy with the setup. I am running 265/75r16 on AR steel wheels. The steels give me a little over a two inch wider stance. There is no rubbing in the rear, but I caught my front tires rubbing the ARB when stuffed (I will remedy this shortly). I used the rancho shocks all the way around. I like the adjustability. I hope this helps give you a clearer picture. Good luck!

By pk on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 06:52 am: Edit

Hmmm,

I have RTE 2" springs and they are less tippy than the OMEs I had before.

I have used 245/75 tires and 235/85 tires and find no trade off with the larger size.

I use OME shocks and like them fine. I can't comment on others except to say that... In my opinion, Rancho is Jeep crap and should not adorn a quality vehicle.

pk

By nadim on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 06:55 am: Edit

You need to know what your Disco is for. The beauty of these LRs is that they can excell everywhere!

I drive my Disco on mountain roads, highways, and everykind of surface within a day. If my Disco was in the Us, and I would want to beef it up in that way, then I would go with the RTE 3", the Ranchos 9000, which are oin cab adjustable for offroad/onroad, and get 265s BFG ATs for everyday, then get 5 steel 15ers, with offraod tires of your liking...

this is my input!

By pk on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 07:09 am: Edit

Nadim,

I just must ask you...

Why get steel wheels? Of what advantage are they? Alloys work so well.

Please advise?

pk

By Jeff Williams on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 07:25 am: Edit

I am ordering everything today.

265/75/16 bfg mt

rovertym 2" springs firm-rear soft-front

rovertym rear top shock mounts

rancho rs9000 shocks
#9234 rear #9207 front

rover accs. here in so cal is doing the install.

Thanks for all your input.

Jeff

By pk on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 07:44 am: Edit

Man,

The 265/75 is wide. With only 2 " of lift you may have to trimm alot more. Just be aware.

pk

By Ron on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 07:46 am: Edit

And your turning radius is going to suck with stock wheels, maybe rethink the tire size, or get wide offset wheels?

Ron

By Jeff Williams on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 07:54 am: Edit

I will be ordering the Rovertym wheel spacers soon.

And stay with my stock wheels.

Jeff

By Ron on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 07:58 am: Edit

That will work, does the same things as wide offset wheels.

Ron

By Bill Gill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 08:01 am: Edit

I just installed my OME HD front and MD rear shocks and springs, and I'm very happy with results. It was really simple procedure - no need to drill, grind, weld, etc. I had it axle-deep in the mud less than 2 hours after putting the wheels back on. Rides like a new CAR - tight in the corners and stable over bumps. Net gain is about 2.5" over stock (my stock suspension was really tired). I have 245/70/16 Big O Big Foot AT's, and there's MORE than enough room for them. In fact, they look pretty damn tiny now. I will be installing new tires this weekend - either 265/75/16, 235/85/16, or 245/75/16 XT's. I want the width of the 265's out here in the desert, but I'm worried about tracking problems (wider tires wander all over the road). I also don't want to hack apart the rear fenders too much. Maybe 235/85's will be better.

I also have to agree with pk's comment about Rancho...I'm more confident in an exclusive, vehicle-specific shock built in the Outback rather than a pep-boy's off-the-shelf special that gets slapped on every jeep-buggy on the road just for road-lift and looks.

By nadim on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 08:07 am: Edit

Steel wheels are easier to mend back into place in the middle of no where that the stock aluminiums, that are brittle and will crack. Also, they are cheap, and you can go offraoding with them without being scared of sracthing them...

I have 5 aluminium rims with BFG trac edges 235/85, soon to be 265/75 BFG ATs, and 5 steel LR rims, with 265/80 TSLs, soon to 'mutate' into 33x12.5x15 on 15ers, with some praying, love, and butchering!

By Mike on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 03:18 pm: Edit

Jeff:

The 9234s will give you 28.5" of travel. If you plan on disconnecting your rear-antisway bars, you will need a drop kit of some sort (RoverTym Quiet Cones) because the spring will come out of its purchase by about 5" with the 9234 shocks. And if they come unseated, they will not go back in by themselves. Email if you want pictures.

Thanks,
Mike

By slider on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 04:44 pm: Edit

Will 265/75's rub at the front when full lock steering left/right? How about 235/85's?
On stock steels.
95 disco w/2" RTE lift.

I just installed my 2" RTE lift. Did not change the lower, rear shock mounts. It's a stiffer ride...says the wife??!!

Bill...your garage floor is much cleaner than mine, but instead of that coffee you have there, I had a Sam Adams. It was 3am and was too tired to even take any digital shots.

By Bill Gill (Bluegill) on Wednesday, April 11, 2001 - 06:37 am: Edit

Slider - 265's will almost certainly rub due to extreme width - 235/85's very well might, too. Depends on how the factory set the steering lock bolts, it can vary quite a bit from truck to truck. Get down under your front end and see how much clearance you have now - then picture a couple extra inches of rubber...

I'm a total Type-A personality, so the garage floor is spotless. The previous picture was taken when we started on the first wheel at 06:30 last Saturday morning, hence the coffee. The following picture was taken at the last wheel at BEER:30. We spent last weekend restoring my buddy Steve's (in the background) '69 Land Cruiser FJ40, so he owed me bigtime - he brought the Pacifico's...

By wesley on Tuesday, May 22, 2001 - 09:27 pm: Edit

Hey Bluegill,
Where do you have that front end recovery ring attached?
wesley
PS I'm in the middle of my shock/spring install and am going to need something heavier than beer the way things are going so far. Unfortunately, my vehicle spent the first 3 yrs in the Great White North and the bolts/nuts are rusted together.

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 02:45 pm: Edit

That's just a standard 3/4" shackle hanging from the recovery ring on the Land Rover wrap-around brush bar. I have shackles on each ring (but not in the picture above) and another shackle hanging from a warn hitch receiver thingamajig. Use two shackels up front (one on each ring) to spread the love between both sides of the bull bar/frame.

P.S. If you drink too much, the spring compressor will really get the best of you (and you're liable to drop the Disco on your head)...you need to stay sharp, focused...try takin speed instead. You can do it, we believe in you Danielson.

By DiscoFever on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 04:12 pm: Edit

Here we go again......

Hey Bluegill is that a Kirby vacuum cleaner in between your springs box and lawnmower?


PS-for those of you that don't remember the "hey Bluegill is that a Glock on your waist?"

By Ali on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 04:38 pm: Edit

Rancho Shock Survey:

For those of you with Ranchos, please specify the shock # and which position:
for ex:

9234 rear, 9207 front

I'm trying to decide which ones to go with. Currently I have the "eyelet" mount for the front/bottom location and still have the stud mount for the front/top location.
Thanks.

By Blue Gill (Bluegill) on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 04:44 pm: Edit

No, Discofever, it's an Electrolux Supersport 2000 SUX, heavily modified for off-road cleaning duties. As far as vacuums are concerned, this model really sucks. I thank the good Lord each day that we Americans ratified the 28th Amendment and are therefore able to freely use our household cleaning instruments without government oppression. The Brits may call us uncivilised for such, but so be it.

By Eric N (Grnrvr) on Wednesday, May 23, 2001 - 05:09 pm: Edit

Careful, they may try to ban those too using the excuse that they use too much electricity.. "You must use a broom because your vacuum is causing power black outs!" Hope every body has a dust pan. I can just see the lawyers lining up on that one..

By badams on Thursday, May 24, 2001 - 12:26 am: Edit

When you guys install the rovertym 2" setups what firmness do you use?
Firm or Medium?

Thanks,
Brian