By charlie on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:04 pm: Edit

I came across these mats on the internat (http://www.calumetindustries.com/). They are called Pierced Steel Planking and measure 16"x10' 62lbs. cost $21.95 each
They are rusted and I email the guy, he told me that he can cut them in half (31lb each) sand blast them, and paint a coat of primer on for an extra $35 bucks (I asked for two of these, so it will be 4 after the cutting.)

This guy also told me some guys from Land Rover Denver South bought them for offroading too.

Anyone here used them before?

The guy estimates the 5' mat will hold about 500-600lb if supported on each end (center load). Is it strong enough to use as sand/mud ladder?
Also, anyone in the SF Bay Area want them as well? The shipping is kind of expensive, so I though I can find someone to share it. As they are rather heavy, if ordering in a larger quant. I will need fork lift to unload them (I don't have any), otherwise, there will be unloading charge too.

Feed back please.

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:08 pm: Edit

Charlie,

Where do you think that sand ladders came from?

It's the SAME thing.....

Best use of 'em is to improve traction in slick surfaces, not as a true "bridge"


-L

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:14 pm: Edit

looks good to me

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:22 pm: Edit

That it like FREE. Good score!

I am getting some just waiting for my shipping quote

Ron

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:22 pm: Edit

Note:

There will be a cheap bastard roof rack mount design for these soon as well.

Ron

By Jeff on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:23 pm: Edit

I live in the midwest, I am looking into getting some guys together and going down to pick up some of these.

If we do so, we can possibly cut some costs. If we get some guys interested I would try and get him to lower his price, or cut them for free and then we.

Email me if you are interested in one.

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:26 pm: Edit

R.O.V.E.R.S. people

How about a group order? Bill B check your email

Ron

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:40 pm: Edit

Ok if you are local to me let me know.

I am looking to get 8 pairs (10ft cut in half). Should be ~$50 a pair for them delivered.

Ron

By chrisvonc on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:54 pm: Edit

Ron, (if this is Philly Ron) I'll nab a pair.. email me with details as you get them.
[email protected]

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:57 pm: Edit

Ok there is one.

Who else

Bill B thinks we should get 30 pairs. I was thinking 8

Ron

By charlie on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:57 pm: Edit

Got a new quote from him.
Each mat, ship UPS is $28.64 +$3 for some sort of extra charge from UPS.
Cut and blast and primed is 17.50 per mat.
again, each mat cost 21.95 +$8 if you order less than 30 of them since they have to rebundle them.

I am going for it.

By charlie on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:59 pm: Edit

OH Ron, I am doing to by myself thou. I live in California.

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 04:59 pm: Edit

I have some of these and keep in mind they are very heavy!!! The aluminum ones are much better..


Kyle

By chrisvonc on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:11 pm: Edit

Crap, thats right. I forgot about how heavy those boys are. Damn near threw my back out.
hmmmmm

By charlie on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:13 pm: Edit

Kyle,
how much those aluminum ones weight?
Besides the weight, are those mat strong enough?
These are heavy, but I think it is rather cheap so it is good for abuse. It will get rust again after few use I guess.

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:22 pm: Edit

Hmm , the steel ones are stiffer for sure but storage of those big heavy ass steel ones is a chore.. The aluminum stuff is probably 1/2 as heavy


Kyle

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:24 pm: Edit

Wuss

Get the steel. Alum will cost you big bucks. These are $60 delivered even if you only buy one pair.

Ron

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:28 pm: Edit

LOL , I have the steel. The steel and the aluminum will both bend as a bridge without support so whats the advantage of carryng that heavy shit ? You wont take em cause they are so damn heavy. They aint no good sitting at home. I can assure you of that.

kyle

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:30 pm: Edit

They will look great on the side of the adventure rack and possibley as roof rack flooring as well.

Ron

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:35 pm: Edit

lol , ok hard head.... You have to get some before you realise what a pain in the ass they are....


Kyle

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:37 pm: Edit

I agree, but they are primarily for decoration and I am sure the boss will love them.

Ron

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:42 pm: Edit

eeek!! Thats going a long way for a look man...lol...pouser Ron.....hehe


Kyle

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:45 pm: Edit

I freely admit I am buying them for poseur value.

It is a bonus if they ever help get me unstuck

Ron

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:47 pm: Edit

LOL , so nothing up on the rack but the pouser mats ?

Kyle

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:51 pm: Edit

And the hilift (move it to the back of the rack). . . and the lights . . .

I want to make mounts to mount them on the side a la camel trophy. i think 2 will be enough (no need for flooring)

If I actually get them muddy it will reduce the posuerness of it somewhat.

Ron

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 05:53 pm: Edit

I gotya Nathan,,,,errrr ,,, um ,,,I mean Ron....

Kyle

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 06:01 pm: Edit

31 lbs is heavy? Wanna come over for some quality time on my weight bench Kyle? It's out in the garage with my Rover & tools, so you'll feel right at home. I'll even get some lite beer in the fridge for ya...

By RVR OVR (Tom) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 06:02 pm: Edit

Ugh! Ron, you would place a bunch of heavy shit on your roof to look cool?? The boss won't think too highly of you when the greasy side is facing up.

Tom

By Ron on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 06:03 pm: Edit

62lbs is nothing.

Ron

By mike k on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 06:39 pm: Edit

Charlie, I'm in, live in San Jose. email me details... I could be in for more than 1 pair...

By newbie on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 07:01 pm: Edit

I'm trying to decide between Aluminum vs. Steel mats.... What tires would work best for either????

By Kyle on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 07:24 pm: Edit

Blue , its not 31 , its 31 X 2 so , 62 pounds....Still not much. Add that with 4 cans of gas and a few hundred pounds of gear on the rack , a pull pal , a high lift and 4 Hella 4Ks and you damn right its allot of weight. I suppose if its just a pouser rack though its all good...

Kyle

By Rob Davison (Pokerob) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 07:55 pm: Edit

i too would like a set for posuer value, but i've checked out kyles steel ones and they are too heavey even if i never take them off. so i'll have to pass. i really would like to find a set of those plastic bridges for like $50, then i'm in.

rd

By newbie on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 08:12 pm: Edit

Since we are all just getting sand ladders to bolt to the sides of our roof racks to up the posuer cool factor of our disco's, I'm going to make some out of papiermache, paint'em up nice and there you go. It will save big $$$ and not weigh a ton. People will be totally impressed and think I'm a cool camel trophy dude. Dang, with sand ladders on my roof, I get to totally score on babes now. People will never know that I'm really a posuer, it's really my mom's disco, I should get a real job and move out of my parents basement, since after all I am 39 years old.....

By Rob Davison (Pokerob) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 11:14 pm: Edit

actully, that might work for the chicks, but the truest posuer wants to impress the big boys, thats why i want the bridges.

;)
rd

By Neal Burton (Neal) on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 - 11:27 pm: Edit

Rob,

sounds like you need to buy an Xterra.

By michel on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 04:57 am: Edit

Here's two good places where ladders are good, the first one is a deep mud gully, were we had to winch 5 trucks through, and sand ladders would of made progress faster, and the second one were they were actually used to make a stable platform for a log bridge we had to build.

http://www.discoweb.org/canada01/DSC00070.JPG

http://www.discoweb.org/mike/Bridge1.jpg

Michel

By Discosaurus (Discosaurus) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 11:42 am: Edit

Hey Kyle...

How do you like your PullPal ?
Work as advertised ??
When you sink that bitch deep into the mud can you get it back out without having to pull it with the truck ???

keith
discosaurus

By Kyle on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 12:03 pm: Edit

Keith , its a digger for sure. Tried it in Frozen ground out in Limon CO last year and couldnt get it to bite , I guess I could have given it a bit more of a starter hole but it was cold and I didnt feel like dicking with it (Winching a tractor trailer and needed and anchor to hold me still).
In everything else it works exactly as advertised. Its makes it easier if you have a second person to center it when you first start winching it in but you can get it done by yourself by making a little hole for it to stand in.
YES!! If you do a hard pull it will dig its way to china and you will have to retrieve it with a shovel and some cursing. All worth it though , if you need it you need it...I have the big one , I havnt seen the little ones in use...

Kyle

By Andrew Vick (Afv) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 12:33 pm: Edit

Kyle: What in the hell were you doing out in Limon?

By Kyle on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 12:37 pm: Edit

We got caught in that big storm last April on the way home. It was quite a dissaster for someone that lives in the East. But a hell of an adventure as well....

Kyle

By Andrew Vick (Afv) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 01:13 pm: Edit

It was a disaster for us locals too. Don't get that thick and heavy of stuff too often, especially that late. I high centered my disco in the driveway while attempting to "plow" out a path for our other cars. Amazing how fast hot exhaust pipes will melt it down and let you be on your way.

By Kyle on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 04:13 pm: Edit

Yeah , I was coming through the pass in the rockies the night before andmade it to Limon at about 4 am. The following morning I couldnt see the Disco parked 10 feet from the Hotel door.. Truley some freaky shit going on there.. The wind was like 75 MPH constant....


Kyle

By Clarance Romero (Clarance) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 04:36 pm: Edit

damn, sounds like fun Kyle

By tenacstud on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 05:26 pm: Edit

Hey I would like to get in on these ladders. Email if a group order ever goes through. [email protected].

By Ron on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 05:29 pm: Edit

If you are local to the R.O.V.E.R.S. area (Jersey, SE PA, Del. MD.) let me know as we have a list (right Bill ).

Otherwise order direct. It is about $60 a pair if you order direct.

Ron

By charlie on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 07:23 pm: Edit

Shipping to Northern Cali is about 30 each (10' span.) I do not think there will be much saving over group order.
---Charlie

By Bill Bettridge (Billb) on Wednesday, November 28, 2001 - 07:31 pm: Edit

Actually, yeah there is a big savings - works out to about $11.00 per pair

By GG on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 02:29 am: Edit

Alluminium landing mat
www.tierraverde4x4.com/pagina_accesorios/index_copia.html

By Bill Bettridge (Billb) on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 04:05 am: Edit

If I'm ever near Argentina, I'll stop by and pick some up!

By charlie on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 12:59 pm: Edit

Only if I can read the language.

By GG on Thursday, November 29, 2001 - 01:02 pm: Edit

Why have you to be there? You can IMPORT them cheaper!