By charlie on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 12:51 pm: Edit

Just wonder how easy a stock D2 to roll over. I am not talking about on the trail thou.

Some of you may have seen this already, but it is interesting.

By Robert Mann (Oldscout) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 12:59 pm: Edit

Hard to tell, but it looks like a speed issue.

By Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 01:46 pm: Edit

if you arent haulin ass most stuff be can be corrected...as far as on the trail..I have seen disco on some pretty steep stuff.but whats on top also pays a factor as does lift tires sliders bumpers skidplates the list goes on..

By Eric Brodis (Broder) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 02:00 pm: Edit

I'm just amazed the kayak stayed on top. My Christmas list includes some new wheels to widen my stance. 95 disco $G stage III lift

By Steve (Steve2) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 02:28 pm: Edit

looks like he hit a rock or object that pushed the car over like hitting a land mine. notice the upper structure of the car is seemingly intact despite numerous 'hits' on the roof.

steve

By my96disco (Trevorh) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 03:29 pm: Edit

Upper structure is intact probably due to the internal rollcage of the CT Discos. The roof rack is mounted through the roof to the cage, that is probably why it is still attached also.

Trevor

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 03:53 pm: Edit

Trevor,

If that's a D2... there never was a CT Disco II....

But, the grain is rough.... it does look like a genuine CT, doesn't it? Maybe that's not a D2....

Charlie,
Where'd you find that? Is it a CT, or is it a D2?

-L

By my96disco (Trevorh) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 03:57 pm: Edit

L

I stand corrected, didn't look hard enough.

T

By Ron on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 03:59 pm: Edit

That looks like a DI

Ron

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 04:01 pm: Edit

It's hard to tell...

I thought that the handles looked like D2 handles at first, but going frame-by-frame, it kinda looks like the older handles of the RRC/D1s....

Hmmm.....

There aren't legs from the roofrack to the gutter, tho'....

-L

By Ho Chung (Ho) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 04:05 pm: Edit

looks like disco1. from mongolia 98 camel trophy.

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 04:08 pm: Edit

Ho,
I'm leaning that way, too....


Trevor, probably a good call on that being the cage helping....

Hmmm..... wonder if I could use that to get the wife to let me install one?? LOL!!!


-L

By Charlie on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 04:14 pm: Edit

Sorry, that is the D1 on CT Mongolia'97.

http://www.worldoffroad.com/events/camel1.asp

But I was wondering if D2 is easier to roll, compares with other 4x4 of the same class (or you may not consider them as "same class"), such as Jeep GC, Pajero/Montero, 4runner, or even the D1 on road, with no mod or anything on the roof.

---Charlie

By ski utah on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 06:11 pm: Edit

DII w/ ACE and 255-55-18's is least prone to rollover. The ACE and the wider stance of the tires creates a pretty stable set-up in rollover avoidance....I am suprised how stable my DII is at high speeds.
My .02

By Mud Man (Clarance) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 07:23 pm: Edit

Its better than most, especially w/ ACE.

By han chung on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 08:44 pm: Edit

ace helps a lot but still ace or no ace, it depends on the driver. yes being a tall vehicle looks can be deceiving... take into account that all discos are aluminum panelled w/ only the roof being steel. i think that discos' center of gravity is considerably low compared to it's height. on the other hand, i heard lots of stories of d2's rolling over on road. dunno the statistics on roll overs compared to other vehicles of same class. i'm sure you can easily roll over a tahoe too....
driving maners and understanding your vehicle's capacities and capabilities are key in emergency situations.

By TCarr on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 10:13 pm: Edit

Thought D2 was a steel body, D1 is aluminum.

By cartner on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:22 pm: Edit

Of all the SUV's or trucks, which I consider the ROver to be first and foremost, I would rather have the rover around me, and trust it more not to roll than any other trucks. I've seen them do some nutso stuff, and it seems like they are designed to take a lot of punishment relatively safely. I don't know thats true in a GMC Avalanche plastic special. In my opinion, of course.

By Rover Bob on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:24 pm: Edit

Hold on there,cowboy!
I was told by the dealer that all Discos are steel! True or False? RR are aluminum paneled.

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:36 pm: Edit

Bob,

That's what you get for listening to the dealers!

The Range Rover has more steel than the Disco... check out how rusty the rear liftgate and tailgate are on most of the RRCs....


The Disco's roof is steel (and chassis, and other parts, etc.). The door skins, fender skins, hood skin, all Birmabright (an aluminum alloy that was originally developed in Birmingham, England, for use in aircraft).


-L

By LarryG on Monday, December 03, 2001 - 11:56 pm: Edit

RRC only has steel hood and tailgate. Everything else is AL. Try putting a magnet mount CB antenna anywhere on a Rangie.

Larry
'90 RR

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 08:18 am: Edit

Well, it stuck fine to the center of the hood!

LOL!

-L

By Rob Davison (Pokerob) on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 10:11 am: Edit

aren't the NEW disco II's steel panels now?

rd

By Ron on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 10:17 am: Edit

ONly the doors.

Ron

By Petros (Runnerma) on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 01:45 pm: Edit

the Disco II didn't went to any Camel Trophy Event as we all know>
Now how easy is to roll over... I don't know...
Cause I rolled over once with my 6" lifted 4runner, now with a little lean of my disco I feel unsafe... I think Ill have to knock off this...

Petros

By badams on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 02:30 pm: Edit

Crap... I want an internal roll cage like that ... look at the roof!

Santa did you hear that ?

Brian

By Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 02:38 pm: Edit

Part No RBL746SSS at http://www.safetydevices.co.uk/4x4/discovery.html





-L

By Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) on Tuesday, December 04, 2001 - 02:39 pm: Edit

The September 2001 issue of Land Rover World has some pics of a D1 rolling at Moab with NCRC.

Not having an internal cage, the roof rack seperated from the vehicle and there was a bit of damage, but it did drive out under it's own power to meet up with the flat bed to tow it away. No injuries either (besides pride).

By GBarclay on Wednesday, December 05, 2001 - 09:55 am: Edit

The Disco 2, along with the BMW X5, are the only vehicles to lift two wheels during the Autoweek slalom test. Until the new Liberty (Cherokee) managed a double roll with twist.

The point is, if you want a performance vehicle - buy a Porsche. If you want the most capable stock 4x4 then the Land rover may be for you, just don't think it will handle like a sports car. FWIW, a stock Disco 1 will roll at around 43 degrees static.