By Moe on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:04 pm: Edit

I have a small hole, the size of an ice pick, in the sidewall of a new Trixus MT. Can I plug the hole in the sidewall and keep the tire (as a spare) or am I better ditching it and not taking the chance of it coming apart?

I witnessed and then caught the kids that spiked the tire on the Disco, two on our Toyota PU and about 20 others up and down the street. Bloody wankers cost us a lot of time and cost their parents a couple grand in repairs.

By Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:06 pm: Edit

get the little bastards to buy you a new one

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:08 pm: Edit

I had the same thing happen to a new Michelin XPC a while back. The tire was a total loss. I talked to a few tire shops, and they all said that you just can't do anything with a sidewall puncture like that. Just have the little shits' parents buy you a new one.

By gp (Garrett) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:10 pm: Edit

.....any chance on beating the kids with a pillow case of full coke cans? that is just messed up. and the parents are not taking care of any of the costs??
have had many a holes in various tire sidewalls....never a tire as nice as a trixus though. but never wanted to chance trying to plug it. seen sidewall damage that eventually pulls the belts apart and create a nice bulge in the tire. i would not risk it......even as a spare.
when you are stuck out on a trail the last thing you want to worry about is the spare.

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 03:37 pm: Edit

Funny how tires will hold repairs or nails.
I had some 33' on a Toyota 4X4 PU I took a sliver of wood in the side wall. from a piece of fence I smashed into one fine icy morning Unknown to me I drove it about a year Moved from Wash State to San Diego then on to VA with it stoll in the Side Wall. How did I know sliver in the tire, New rims were being installed I hade a plug inserted and drove the BFG for the life of the tire It never went flat

By Moe on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 04:25 pm: Edit

Yes, the unfortunate father has already ordered a new tire for me and we already have two new ones on the pickup, so we are almost compensated . . . but that pillow case idea would make be feel a bit better about the whole exchange.

It will be a pity to toss a brand new tire.

By Rob Davison (Pokerob) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 04:53 pm: Edit

i see your point moe... even though you get a new one it's just a waste to pitch it out.

is it a puncture? or and actuall lack of rubber there?

like if they used the ice pick it really wouldn't remove any material. now if there is a void in the tire that you could put one of those little straws you use to mix a drink ,then i wouldn't use it.

but if it was just stabbed _I_ personnally would KEEP the tire and get it patched on the inside then tube it. and keep it under the deck as an "all else has failed, armoggedon is here and there arent any tires left" kind of spare.


thats just me though, i tend to hoild onto things too long

rd

By joshua on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 05:16 pm: Edit

You guys got it all wrong...

Its bars of soap in the pillow case, not soda cans..

joshua

By Robert Mann (Oldscout) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 05:20 pm: Edit

I like sand and nickles in a sock.

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 05:25 pm: Edit

lash the little bastard to the tire while you go wheelin and make him plug the leak with his grubby little finger. At least his father made good...just imagine what dear old dad will do to him.

no, it is soda cans in a pillow case - it's a bar of soap in a towel...sand & nickels in a sock...interesting...

p.s. on the sidewall patch - I got hit with a screwdriver and the rubber was left with a ripped up / rough-edged hole - material would have to have been removed to get a clean edge for a patch.

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 06:24 pm: Edit

II did a vandal thing as a kid, I had to wash wax and mow my ass off, It thought me not to mess with other peoples rides. One of the owners hired me and became a second father type.
Watch Full Metal Jacket. It's soap, soda cans will explode, Soap can go along way toward motivating a punk. Just don't let him around
loaded weapons afterwards. It does help if there restrained by rope first

Oh former life flash back's got to go take my medication

By Lester Burnham on Monday, December 10, 2001 - 08:43 pm: Edit

As far as sidewall repair goes, my spare has about 4 or 5 of those plugs in ONE hole! About a month ago I hit a rock pretty hard and it pinched the tire againt the wheel and put a pretty big hole or gash in the sidewall. One of the guys on the trail had one of those do it yourself patch kits. He stuck about 5 of them in the sidewall and it worked great. I drove home about 250 miles at about 85 to 90 MPH with no problem. I did end up making that a spare tire just because my wife drives the Disco at times and I didn't want something to happen while she was driving. Did a total of about 400 miles on it though, and as you can tell, I don't drive like a grandma!

By gp (Garrett) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 08:32 am: Edit

joshue.....rent Bad Boys. (pillow case/soda can scene) always a good holiday flick!!

ps: how about frozen soda cans?

By Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 08:46 am: Edit

Oranges in Towels won't leave bruises. Supposedly does great internal organ damage.

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:34 pm: Edit

Oranges are good for the first 2 to 3 wacks, My vote goes for the soap. Besides OJ leaves a mess and a trail. Was i talking about a glove, no lets not go there.

By Moe on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:56 pm: Edit

Yes, Bad Boys is a great jailhouse flick--not so sure if it will put you in the holiday mode

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:01 pm: Edit

yep, that's why I was saying that it's soda cans in a pillow case (a la Bad Boys) and a bar of soap in a towel (a la FMJ)...also gotta love the scene in Bad Boys where the little dude rigs the boom box and sets it out as bait for the big ugly white dude...sho 'nuff he grabs it, hefts it to his shoulder and starts groovin....

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 01:41 pm: Edit

Boot camp trick from the 60's & 70's. No was food allowed in the barracks and Oranges would make an awful mess after 100 or so smacks. The preferred restraining device was Dental Floss (couple hundred feet and wrapped like a cocoon the slacker up in his rack, then a sock in mouth. Now for the motivation to get with the program the soap in the towel thing, not as brutal as in FMJ but same point was made. At that time the Military was the only option for many youths facing some serious Jail time for non violent crimes. Thank God for the 3 strikes law. So calm down all you liberals out there it was a necessary evil to compensate for the justice systems F%$#&*P. Not a proud tradition but most effective.

Final insult while still tied up in rack (Bed) slacker was carried outside in the street and left him.

The Moral to this story you parrents keep your kids off the street

By Bluegill (Bluegill) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 02:20 pm: Edit

>"The Moral to this story you parrents keep your kids off the street"

Hmmm...this will be hard as my daughter just took her first steps Sunday and she's already outrunning me

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 02:48 pm: Edit

Congrats, Give me the keys to the Disco is sooner than you think. My son wants a restored Series III 109, I have 4 years to build one

DD