By Ron Ward (Ronward) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 09:22 am: Edit

I know, I know....

I have RTE 2" HD and get roughly 21" front (center hub to wheel arch) and 21.5" rear. I run 235 85 MTs with Bilstein stock replacement shocks. If I add RTE sliders (heavy ones with outriggers) and a Safety Devices Adventure roof rack, is the rear going to sag? I already have those little yellow 10mm ARB spring spacers on all four corners. John? Anyone?

Thanks

Ron Ward

By Scott (Scott_Bowden) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 12:39 pm: Edit

Ron,
If it does, just put another 10mm spacer on the other end of the spring.
You saw my truck, thats what I have.

By Ron Ward (Ronward) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 02:15 pm: Edit

Scott,

I see how that works on the back (retainer strap) but what about the front. Is there a way to retain the bottom of the front springs?

Ron

By Ron on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 07:06 pm: Edit

You can add a strap just like the back.

Ron

By Scott (Scott_Bowden) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 09:58 pm: Edit

Ron,
See how far your front drops at full extension. If you put in the extra spacer the spring might not come loose?
I have had no problems in the front (currently unrestrained).
You could make a retainer strap like the rear. Did you look at mine, on the rear?
I made a strap that wraps around the spring and bolts from the top and bottom of the spring plate. I also made a similar style for the top spring mount.

By Ron Ward (Ronward) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 10:19 pm: Edit

Scott,

Yeah I saw your handiwork. Longer bolts will enable adding a spacer to the rears. I suppose a similar piece of scrap can be drilled and put in place on the bottom spring perch up front. Are there holes in the front spring perch or will that have to be drilled?

Ron

ps, I get what you say about adding another spacer to the front and giving the spring more tension at full drop making it less likely to pop out. But I am wary of reducing the height of the spring perch lip up front.

By Scott (Scott_Bowden) on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 10:53 pm: Edit

I did not use longer bolts but that made the bending of the strap more extensive.
There are similar bolts up front. The only difference is the shock bolts through the lower spring plate.
Since my truck has "never been offroad" I don't have to worry about the spring moving.

By Ron Ward (Ronward) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 06:04 pm: Edit

So how does one retain the bottom of the spring on the front since the shock bolts through the spring perch?

Ron "Never off road" Ward

By Ron on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 06:52 pm: Edit

2in strap with a hole in the middle for the shock

On the top you can use a lot of HD hose clamps. Ghetto but it works if you are not stretching too much

ron

By Ron Ward (Ronward) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 09:05 pm: Edit

Ron,

Hows that? The width of the shock or at least the bushing is just under 2". I cut a hole big enough to go around the shock bushing, there won't be much left of the 2" strap metal.

Anybody retaining their front springs on the bottom?

Ron Ward

By Ron on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 09:17 pm: Edit

You bend in the center and put the hole though the strap for the top of the stud part not around the bushing or body. Its a pain but it works (at least with the shocks/axles I have on the 110). getting the nut on was a challenge, however. I put mine to keep the spring from shifting as I am not running long enough shocks to unseat the springs I have.

Most people who run retained go with external shock mounts so you can do the front just like the rear.

Ron