By Dan on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 10:40 pm: Edit

Thinkin about switchin to these, will it make any diff in fule ec., power, or anything else.

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Wednesday, December 12, 2001 - 11:16 pm: Edit

I looked into a set before. Get a set of 8MM Magnecor wires (For the money the best wires made)Also he has a special for LR, RR , Discos
Excellent customer service. And for plugs I like the 4 prong Bosch, Your stock system wont even tap those...

Link
http://www.magnecor.com/

DD

By Al Hang (Alhang) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 11:38 am: Edit

I have the jacobs, i am not really happy with the quality because the insulator seems to be rather weak. The warranty is good though, lifetime replacement with no questions asked. I'd also stay away from the Magnecor, they don't look like anything special and seem really overpriced. 2 wires I do like are the MSD super conductor and Accel 300+. You can get a universal set in both for around 60 and the quality is really good. I think the Magnecor "special price" is almost 100 for the 8.5mm. As far as plugs, the standard bosch plat. are great but the +4's seems to shroud the spark too much especially in the poor head design of the rover.

By Robert Mann (Oldscout) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 11:51 am: Edit

The Bosch +4 are all marketing driven. Here is a 1918 Bosch ad with a +3 tip. WHY did it take them soooooo long to add one more?? It's snake oil.

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 12:09 pm: Edit

Al Hang

How can you say over priced? Do you have a set or is this an opinion based on other opinions based on BS, Read the information on his site.
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Quote from Site

"We will sell the sets (listed below) in our 7mm, 8mm and KV85 8.5mm cables at 30% off the standard retail price includes shipping costs within USA (the following prices include the discount), terms of this offer are:
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1995-98 4.0 & 4.6 litre V8 * Land Rover, Discovery, Range Rover 87142
for 7MM $55.53 80142
for 8MM$58.38 85142
for 8.5 MM $97.66 Race Wires

Price the Stockers or Belkins or the "Beloved Ricky Racer MSD crap,

MSD from Jegs.com


Multi-Angle Plug Boots Installed On One End with 90° Distributor Socket Boots Included. $ 49.99

Try to get next day service from MSD or Acel. And custom lengths no extra charge.
I have thrown away more sets of MSD, Belkins, Acel, Champions, and other New age wires
than I can count even with my shoes off.
The Magnecor wires are solid built made of the highest quality material, I have over 45K on my set
and transferred them to my Disco. I have never had that with any other wire set EVER,

I post on honest trial and evaluations. If your going to find fault with it back it up with more than an opinion..

PS Nothing personel bad hair day

DD

By Bill Bettridge (Billb) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 02:37 pm: Edit

NGK plugs + Magnecor wires are a good combo. Got -em on both Rovers (one set 8.5 and one set 8mm)with great results.

Why buy a "universal" set of wires when you can get an at least equal set(probably better IMO)already cut to length and terminated?

By D Cantrell (Discodad) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 02:51 pm: Edit

NGK used to use them, How are ther new lines?

I saw some adds for a Silver Core Spark plug any one know the name?

DD

By Al Hang (Alhang) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 03:37 pm: Edit

DD, sorry you spent so much for wires but that's no reason to jump on me. As far as "opinion based BS" just about everything on this site is opinion based.
There's almost no fact here, it's all personal experience. If you read the magnecor site, you'll see that the only difference between the wires is the insulator thickness. All the conductors are the same. Considering the increase in insulation is 1.5mm for almost double the price, yes I do think they are overpriced. 1.5mm of silicone doesn't justify the cost to me, but if it's too your liking then so be it. If it's got something other than what is stated on the site then please enlighten me as I do not personally own a set. I do have the jacobs on the truck now, and have used the other wires I mentioned.

I'm also sorry you refer to the MSD as ricky racer crap. I've always liked their stuff and have had good luck with it. I have used the MSD 6AL, Mallory Hyfire, Crane Fireball, and Accel ignition components on various vehicles. My personal favorites are the Mallory and MSD.

Then you state, "Try to get next day service from MSD or Acel. And custom lengths no extra charge"

Next day service is no problem, because I can drive to the local speed shop or marine supply store and buy the wire, terminals, or even an entire spool if I want to.

And lastly,"I post on honest trial and evaluations. If your going to find fault with it back it up with more than an opinion.."

LOL, that's total crap. Nobody knows you are honest, nobody knows you from john doe. It's all opinions! Now if you did an ignition wire study along the lines of the mini-mopar oil filter study then maybe I might give you more credit than joe nobody but till then forget it. Unless you cut open each of your wires and measured resistance, measured the actual diameter in mm, and photographed the effects of heat on different plug wires then you have no right to call my opinion BS.

-Al

bad hair day? might wanna change that login to discomom

By Al Hang (Alhang) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 03:42 pm: Edit

whoops forgot my other ranting, you got them dyno results for your +4's or is that just an opinion?

By Kyle on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 03:47 pm: Edit

+4 is crapola,,,,,bosh plugs in general leave a bad taste with me....

Kyle

By Kingfish (Kingfish) on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 04:22 pm: Edit

I use the +1 platinum bosch with the 8mm Magnecor and found they run the best as opposed to LR oem wires/champion plugs and LR OEM wires/regular NGK plugs and Magnecore wires/champion plugs. Thats the best combo I could find for my Disco. As for MSD or Accel, you probably won't notice a difference. I like the magnacores because they fit right and appear long lasting. Hey, to each his own...

Also, a dollar for a spark plug in 1918? Thats probably like $20 per plug today! That's a lot, considering a nickel got you ring side seats at the local boxing match and a dozen eggs to pelt the loser.

By p m on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 05:15 pm: Edit

Why bother with Bosch? There's always Champion Truck plug - i simply cannot see how one can fail.

I had them in the oil-burning jeep mill, gap opened to 0.06", MSD 6A + MSD wires + MSD high-voltage coil, and they never failed.

BTW, one time i bought a set of Bosch Platinums - their tiny center electrodes fouled within a few miles. Never more.

peter

By Art on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 05:22 pm: Edit

Where can I order the wires and plugs?

By p m on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 05:53 pm: Edit

if you're asking about MSD wires and Champion plugs, go to your nearest Kragen/ Checker /Shucks(sp?) parts store.

peter