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pinkytoe69 01-19-2017 08:41 PM

Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
Ive always liked the freelander, but obviously the drivetrain we get here sucks.

So I looked up good ol ebay.co.uk, and holy cow, the TD4 2.0 and transmisson are dirt cheap.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-ZT-ROVE...EAAOSw4GVYMvib

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Transmissi...0AAOSwa~BYcOsA

Is getting it here it a big PITA?

stu454 01-20-2017 03:31 PM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
It'll be easier to just shit in your favorite hat and slap it back on your head.

Devildog01 01-20-2017 03:42 PM

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And it would be worth more money in the end.

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 04:18 PM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
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Originally Posted by stu454 (Post 1050419)
It'll be easier to just shit in your favorite hat and slap it back on your head.

Don't people get 300tdi and td5 in the country all the time?

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Devildog01 (Post 1050421)
And it would be worth more money in the end.

Yeah but even a valuable shit-filled hat isn't FUN :party2:

Mongo 01-20-2017 04:39 PM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
you can import anything you want...

stu454 01-20-2017 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkytoe69 (Post 1050422)
Don't people get 300tdi and td5 in the country all the time?

I wasn't referring to the issues with importing it; I was referring to the fact that you'll be diving into God-knows-what kind of issues. ECU's, wiring harnesses, Murphy's law? And when you're done you'll have...........a fucking Freelander.

Tugela 01-20-2017 05:26 PM

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If you want it that bad, consider waiting a few years. You'll be able (in theory) to import a complete TD4 Freelander. The first models came out when, 1997? So in 2022 those will be 25 years old (assuming the TD4 was available the first year). The good news is the price of a 25-year old Freelander will be low. The bad news is that a 25-year old Freelander will be in lousy shape. And it will be a 25-year old Freelander. But if that's what you love and that's what you want then go for it. There's no accounting for taste. For reasons I don't understand I still think about buying a P38 sometimes. It's a foolish idea, but something about them appeals to me.

DiscoPhoto 01-20-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stu454 (Post 1050425)
...........a fucking Freelander.

nuff said

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 05:56 PM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stu454 (Post 1050425)
I wasn't referring to the issues with importing it; I was referring to the fact that you'll be diving into God-knows-what kind of issues. ECU's, wiring harnesses, Murphy's law? .

It can't be much different than tossing a 300tdi and/or r380 into a D2?

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DiscoPhoto (Post 1050430)
nuff said

Like I said, ive always had a soft spot for the damn things.

And with those prices, seems like a relatively affordable project to fuck around with.

It's not like I'm trying to convince everyone that the new Ridgeline is cool :D

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tugela (Post 1050428)
There's no accounting for taste. For reasons I don't understand I still think about buying a P38 sometimes. It's a foolish idea, but something about them appeals to me.

Ha same here.

There's a Callaway that's been at a used lot here for a year and is down to $1995...so tempted.

discostew 01-20-2017 11:01 PM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stu454 (Post 1050425)
I wasn't referring to the issues with importing it; I was referring to the fact that you'll be diving into God-knows-what kind of issues. ECU's, wiring harnesses, Murphy's law? And when you're done you'll have...........a fucking Freelander.

This is exactly whats going to happen. I was thinking fuel system from the tank t the injection pump, glow plugs, pull the dash to get the manual trans pedal box. The whole cooling system could be different. Your really going to need to get your hands on the whole truck. I just think too much shit would be needed.

discostew 01-20-2017 11:06 PM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tugela (Post 1050428)
If you want it that bad, consider waiting a few years. You'll be able (in theory) to import a complete TD4 Freelander. The first models came out when, 1997? So in 2022 those will be 25 years old (assuming the TD4 was available the first year). The good news is the price of a 25-year old Freelander will be low. The bad news is that a 25-year old Freelander will be in lousy shape. And it will be a 25-year old Freelander. But if that's what you love and that's what you want then go for it. There's no accounting for taste. For reasons I don't understand I still think about buying a P38 sometimes. It's a foolish idea, but something about them appeals to me.

I want a P38. If I find a good example I'm going to try to own it. I have a project right now that's got to be done or close to done before I can do it. I've always liked them. But it would have to be a GEMS truck. Probably try to find a speacial edition like a Callaway.

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 11:18 PM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by discostew (Post 1050453)
This is exactly whats going to happen. I was thinking fuel system from the tank t the injection pump, glow plugs, pull the dash to get the manual trans pedal box. The whole cooling system could be different. Your really going to need to get your hands on the whole truck. I just think too much shit would be needed.

So, its not like dropping a 300tdi-r380 in a disco...

:eek:

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by discostew (Post 1050455)
I want a P38. If I find a good example I'm going to try to own it. I have a project right now that's got to be done or close to done before I can do it. I've always liked them. But it would have to be a GEMS truck. Probably try to find a speacial edition like a Callaway.

Other than the diff-lock stuff, this drop right in a P38?

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.../r380-p38.html

pinkytoe69 01-20-2017 11:33 PM

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discostew

Yup, you're right. Pretty much have to replace the whole front end down to the axles.

https://www.landyzone.co.uk/land-rov...ersion.191403/

discostew 01-21-2017 09:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkytoe69 (Post 1050458)
Other than the diff-lock stuff, this drop right in a P38?

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.../r380-p38.html

I know they made the P38 with a manual trans, but just because I've seen the service info for that. Never saw one in person.

Tugela 01-21-2017 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by discostew (Post 1050470)
I know they made the P38 with a manual trans, but just because I've seen the service info for that. Never saw one in person.

I've seen it in person. It came on the diesels. Not sure if it was the R380 but the engine was the BMW 2.5 6-cyl.

pinkytoe69 02-05-2018 11:27 PM

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Im apparently a masochist and cant help myself from researching this, but this has, at least, yielded something useful.

I dont know if this is common knowledge, but this site has a complete set of RAVEs with all the euro info.

http://www.myrangerover.co.uk/rave-workshop-manual/

stu454 02-06-2018 07:57 AM

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For fuck's sake.

discostew 02-11-2018 09:37 AM

Re: Freelander euro drivetrain swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkytoe69 (Post 1072142)
Im apparently a masochist and cant help myself from researching this, but this has, at least, yielded something useful.

I dont know if this is common knowledge, but this site has a complete set of RAVEs with all the euro info.

http://www.myrangerover.co.uk/rave-workshop-manual/

Thanks, that is useful. I have no access to the old rave discs right now because all of it was loaded on a computer that went belly up a while back.


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