D1 slipping under load

bgbrox

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Dec 25, 2016
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Golden, CO
I'm hoping you can help me with some diagnosis. 97 D1 automatic.

Over the weekend, I was on a trail climbing a steep hill. I heard a mechanical 'whizz' and started getting this funny feeling in the driveline. Kind of like a slipping clutch (just trying to describe it - my truck is automatic) that felt like it was from the rear wheels. Almost like driving in light snow where you feel the engine, but the wheels don't hook up for a slip second. I made it up the hill and decided it might be the abs (light has been on for a while and the pedal has been acting up lately). I pulled the fuse and kept on going. We we're done with most of the climbing. I couldn't really recreate it and figured it was in my head. Drove home fine.

Today, I was pulling a trailer from the bottom of my yard and it happened again. The trailer is full of construction trash and weighs more than 1k pounds by now. I had it locked (steep yard) and under full load/torque, I felt a little slip and heard a little whizz. I unlocked and pushed the gas down and couldn't recreate it (by then I was on the driveway).

Any idea what could be going on?
 
I answer with two questions: why did you thougt ABS system could be making this(i think D1 has no ETC so ABS modulator is not working)?
Did you hear wheels slipping?
CD seems to be ok, shafts too...
Are you used to do these high effort climbing? Work of automatic gearbox is more, engine speed more as usual but driver is only pressing throttle.

Regards
 

bgbrox

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Dec 25, 2016
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Golden, CO
I thought abs was involved because I had been having more pedal feedback in the last few weeks. It was also the only thing I could think to try. You are correct that there is no etc system on my D1.

I didn't hear the wheels slipping.

I'm pretty new to off-road driving, but I've had the truck out more than a dozen times on Colorado trails and have put about 10k miles on it. I'd like to believe I'm familiar with the feel of the truck while climbing. It's hard to describe, but it feels different/off.

Along with a big maintenance push, I'm doing the diff, transfer case and transmission fluids. Also having friend rebuild the drive shafts. Maybe something will jump out
 
I was used to drive off-road with manual gearboxes only.
As I got automatic for the first time off-road, my feeling was similar as you described. On-road behavior by selecting D is an immediate movement, but in the sand or mud more throttle is needed to get the same movement. The same while climbing. "Thing" is taking place in torque converter. I was used to feel "it" taking place in my wheels, according to my clutch release.
Scuse me for my Neanderthal way to describe. English is not my language.

Regards
 

BDM

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What’s the mileage on it? What’s the fluid look like? Any idea when the transmission fluid/filter were done?

If the transmission fluid is burnt or dark colored and or smells bad than you’ve found the culprit.
 

bgbrox

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Dec 25, 2016
63
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Golden, CO
I did the transmission filter around 170k. No crazy smells or metal flakes. It has about 175k on it now.

The diffs were dirtier than I expected for only having 10k on the fluid. Not sure how frequently they were serviced before I got it.