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Old 02-18-2018, 08:24 PM   #7601
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Both parties are fucked. Everyone wants extremism. I am just sick and fucking tired of politics and the billion dollar enterprise of politicaltainment Make politics boring again and get rid of the political TMZ people.
Maybe getting rid of the reality show President is the first step along the way.

People need to demand campaign finance reform. Until the way elections are funded is changed, any chance of improvement is out of the question.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:33 PM   #7602
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I totally agree. Until the money is taken out of the equation shit will never change.

Imagine the weed industry and alternative energy industries having more lobbying money than pharmaceutical and oil?

Personally I am not optimistic for this country.

Take hipsters for example. We joke about men weighing 140 pounds, wearing skinny jeans, flip flops, and transgender...they will be running shit when we are retired. I do not know about you but a pack of wolves NEED an alpha AND a beta. We are turning into a pack of omegas. These alt left people may have good intentions but they bring a purse to a tire iron fight.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:06 PM   #7603
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Get them registered. Why would this 'fuck my head up'? Trump had more black voters than Romney and McCain.
That's funny coming from a man who just a page or so back was advocating for restricting voting to people over the age of 35. Should we also demand they own land as well?

Oh, and Trump got fewer black votes than Bush in 2004. Trump's total for 2016 was what? A whopping 8% of all black voters pulled the lever for Trump. That's something Trump should be REAL proud about.
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:10 PM   #7604
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Make politics boring again and get rid of the political TMZ people.
You can thank Bill Clinton for this.

Don't forget it's all about the money. Fox News, LA Times and the WAPO. They all need theirs. Food on the table right?
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Old 02-18-2018, 09:13 PM   #7605
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That's funny coming from a man who just a page or so back was advocating for restricting voting to people over the age of 35. Should we also demand they own land as well?
Great Scott Paul, you sound like Scott. Advocating? I said it was 'interesting'. The idea has principals I do like.

No way Bush got more black votes than Trump. I haven't seen the numbers but I'd be shocked. Especially his (Bushes) second term.
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Didn't you say you didn't care?

Didn't you deflect with whataboutism when equating Russian involvement in our election to actions taken by the US over the years? Granted, we've made our share of mistakes (Mosadegh, Allende, ect.) but to say that we behave on a par with Putin is disgraceful.

It's a shame that you don't even see how you're being used. Putin loves people like you.
Oh Paul, you're spitting into the wind, you do realize that don't you?

You're going to have a heart attack or wet yourself. I don't want to be a part of either.
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Paul, why did you have to go make this thread all NASTY again. Shame.
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Take hipsters for example. We joke about men weighing 140 pounds, wearing skinny jeans, flip flops, and transgender...they will be running shit when we are retired. I do not know about you but a pack of wolves NEED an alpha AND a beta. We are turning into a pack of omegas. These alt left people may have good intentions but they bring a purse to a tire iron fight.
My hyper-liberal, Berkley-educated cousin who lives a life of fabulous luxury in the hills north of San Francisco was wishing that we could lower the voting age to 16 so that "real change could happen." She was saying this in light of the recent school shooting with the hope that the kids would get rid of all the guns. Of course she's of the mindset that more gun laws and the eventual confiscation of everyone's guns will mean no more gun crime.

I'm not a fan of changing any voting laws (including upping the age to 35) except for requiring proper identification to vote. I do find the idea interesting of having to present a prior-year federal tax return as identification/qualification to vote....but it'll never happen. Even with the millennial hipster wimps coming of age, becoming a voting block, eventually finding real jobs and one day running for office, I'm confident that the meek won't inherit the Earth. There will always be strong & weak. The weak will always continue to get some bones thrown to them by the strong.
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Paul, why did you have to go make this thread all NASTY again. Shame.
Yes, and you call yourself a patriotic American. Shame, shame, shame. Disgraceful. Pathetic. You're doing exactly what Putin wants....sowing discord through our peaceful field of plenty.
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The right to vote should include

Prior year tax return
Written test
Proper identification

Way too many ignorant people but that is exactly what the marketing experts want voting.

Still blows my mind listening to cspan during the morning commute. Holy fuck old people hold a grudge! I live it when some old fuck calls in with a 6th grade dialect asking 'am I on the air? Am I on the air?'

Regarding guns...say what you want and use any analogy you want BUT if that kid had a six shooter, shotgun, or knife would he been able to murder 17 innocent children?

EZ pass can snap a Cold War U2 photo of my tag while I travel at 90 mph...we have the same metal detecting technology. Tweak it to detect a certain mass and put them at the front door. One entrance one exit. Put the cops at those points. Every school has a sheriff or city cop at every school in our county.
In an emergency you can automate extra exits to open.

We had detectors in my schools in jersey and when we moved to Dayton, high school. Yeah, I grew up in ghettoes.

But then a shooter will just have his friend pull a fire alarm Mike! My response to that is how many people do you know have the CQB training to double tap an armed person during the frenzy??? Like I have said many times, my wife is a teacher, I know a lot of educators. Last thing you want is my wife or her coworkers armed.
And the very last thing you want is a billy bad ass veteran armed at a school. Wasn't Chris Kyle murdered at a gun range by a vet? All those people at the gun range armed and a frogman still got murdered.

Yes it's fucked we have children being murdered by cunts with guns but for fucks sake why is the response never metal detectors? It's always gun nuts saying 'give everyone guns' and the powder puffs saying 'take guns away'?

What is so fucking wrong with metal detectors?? It's like everything else here I guess. Extremes.
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Metal Detectors.
Just had our first child at a state-of-the-art Womens hospital. We all wore braclets, Name Tags and required to carry our ID. If a newborn got as much as within 6 inches of a doorway or elevator all hell broke lose. I mean bells, alarms, doors and elevators auto-locked and LEO's were on the way. It was the most amazing feat of tech. security I've ever personally seen. All employees greeted me at the cafeteria as dad. Come to find out it was my bracelet color. It's the little things.

If we can do this at the hospitals what about our high schools? The guns are here, now, let's deal with it. Or we can pander with political games while more die. IF further gun laws for new purchase need to be in place that's most certainly a secondary effort in these cases.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:36 PM   #7612
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That's actually not a new thing. Same way 13 years ago with our son. It is Fort Knox in maternity wards.

Keep in mind it is so the hospital does not get sued. They don't care if they lose a baby they don't want to lose a dollar.

I figure if one of my kids gets murdered in school, fuck it. Who cares right?
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:55 PM   #7613
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That's actually not a new thing. Same way 13 years ago with our son. It is Fort Knox in maternity wards.

Keep in mind it is so the hospital does not get sued. They don't care if they lose a baby they don't want to lose a dollar.

I figure if one of my kids gets murdered in school, fuck it. Who cares right?
So we can agree the tech is there. Someone walks in with an AR-15 (hard to conceal that, how about a handgun?) and the doors lock and alarms go off. Have a plan for students to barricade themselves in the classrooms until help arrives. See the video below for the concept. Now imagine if the shooter is locked inside a secondary entry. Maybe withhold funding somewhere outside the US for a month and make it happen in the US Public Schools?

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The technology has been available.

Why do you think we don't make schools safe? There are very very easy ways to make a school insanely safe and maintain the aesthetics conducive to learning.

We choose to consistently elect people who do not see the importance of an educated society. Once again my cyncism leads me to believe corporate interests do not want an educated populace.

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Yes, and you call yourself a patriotic American. Shame, shame, shame. Disgraceful. Pathetic. You're doing exactly what Putin wants....sowing discord through our peaceful field of plenty.
On second thought, I regret posting this and I apologize. I'm sure Paul is a patriotic American....we just see things differently.
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The right to vote should include

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Way too many ignorant people but that is exactly what the marketing experts want voting.

Still blows my mind listening to cspan during the morning commute. Holy fuck old people hold a grudge! I live it when some old fuck calls in with a 6th grade dialect asking 'am I on the air? Am I on the air?'

Regarding guns...say what you want and use any analogy you want BUT if that kid had a six shooter, shotgun, or knife would he been able to murder 17 innocent children?

EZ pass can snap a Cold War U2 photo of my tag while I travel at 90 mph...we have the same metal detecting technology. Tweak it to detect a certain mass and put them at the front door. One entrance one exit. Put the cops at those points. Every school has a sheriff or city cop at every school in our county.
In an emergency you can automate extra exits to open.

We had detectors in my schools in jersey and when we moved to Dayton, high school. Yeah, I grew up in ghettoes.

But then a shooter will just have his friend pull a fire alarm Mike! My response to that is how many people do you know have the CQB training to double tap an armed person during the frenzy??? Like I have said many times, my wife is a teacher, I know a lot of educators. Last thing you want is my wife or her coworkers armed.
And the very last thing you want is a billy bad ass veteran armed at a school. Wasn't Chris Kyle murdered at a gun range by a vet? All those people at the gun range armed and a frogman still got murdered.

Yes it's fucked we have children being murdered by cunts with guns but for fucks sake why is the response never metal detectors? It's always gun nuts saying 'give everyone guns' and the powder puffs saying 'take guns away'?

What is so fucking wrong with metal detectors?? It's like everything else here I guess. Extremes.
Competency exam for voting will never happen. Seems like a good idea but at the core, I am opposed to truly disenfranchising valid, legal voters. Sad as it is to say, just because you can't read or write I don't think you should not have the right to vote. What portion of the general pop was literate when the Constitution was written? I just wish more people would get off their asses and vote. Either way you vote, for my candidate or against, just get off your lazy ass and vote. I would NOT be opposed to something along the lines of "sit out two elections, fuck you, mandatory sit out for the next one".

EZ pass can snap a Cold War U2 photo of my tag while I travel at 90 mph...

That's some funny shit right there. I got a nice bill in the mail from a work trip to Socal last month. Damn google routed me on toll roads. Think of that...you can't get on a damn highway without getting pegged.

For fuck's sake, we can secure a 100 story building in any city, we can secure campuses like Apple and the Pentagon, we can make a goddamn school secure. Like you said, one way in & out, metal detectors, trained officer on duty, etc. Schools already have walls/fences. No lazy ass student is scaling that shit. It can certainly be done.

Lastly, on the AR-15 subject, I'm not at all opposed to making them harder to get. Background checks always. If an 18 or 19 or 20 year old "kid" wants one, same drill. Why can't a background check include seeing what the little freak is up to on social media. Only takes google 0.00000007 nanoseconds to do the research for you.
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