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Old 12-11-2017, 11:49 AM
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LR simply abandoned the US market and handed it over to Jeep...
LR abandoned the US market?
Yes, they absolutely did.
Handed it over to Jeep?
Not hardly. The US belonged to Jeep from the get-go.

That's like saying Ferrari handed over the US market to General Motors.

I remember back when i had my first RR, reading that Honda sold more of their minivans in December of some year than LR sold Range Rovers the entire year.
LR has always been a niche market item.

It's a "look at what I have" car, always has been.
Did I love my Rovers? Yes. Yes I did.
Luxury vehicle? Without a doubt.

I always thought it was the little things that made my Rover special;
the rear wiper being synchronized to the front
outside mirrors that tilted down when i put it in reverse
electro-chromic rear-view mirrow
matched-down-the-centerline woodgrain & hide

The reality is many as-offroad-capable SUVs have many of the LR features I thought were "special", and at a fraction of the price.

"But it's not a Land Rover".
You're right. But I'm not a trustafarian, and I didn't choose my grandparents as well as some of you apparently did.

Unfortunately for me, Land Rover is no longer a club where I can afford to be a member.
Maybe the Range Rovers were my mid-life crisis cars.

I need reliable transportation that isn't going to make me worry about which overly-complex system is going to shit the bed.
I assume the newer models are more reliable.
I fucking hope so, jesus.

They're priced out of my range.
Yes, I could afford a 15+ year old used LR.
But LR sucked 15 years ago. Just because I know what the problems are doesn't mean the problem don't exist.

I LOVE the way disco1 & disco2 looked. That's one of the things that drew me to the brand in the first place.
I just couldn't see out the windshield from the driver's seat because of the roof coming down into my line of sight.
My P38 & certainly the L322 had style.
Yeah, Yeah, I know. The P38 sucked compared to the Classic. I get it.
Classic RR. L322. Discos.
Shit, even the LR3 kinda grew on me a little.

Now LR makes products for rappers & NFL players.
I am neither, nor do I particularly care for either group.
They've always been the car of choice for BarbieWives. Still are.

They're Ford Fucking Explorers with a different badge.
Or maybe Chevy Goddamned Trailblazers.
Or Hyundai whateverthefucks.
Or Toyotas, or Hondas.

They're the same.
Rounded, effete, style-over-substance, appearance-not-reality, beta-male mobiles.
Which is perfect for the world today.
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Old 12-11-2017, 01:51 PM
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Eloquently put, Jim.
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:51 PM
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OK, Mantec raised air intake is installed but one problem remains....

What have people done with this piece of shit air intake hose that runs from the D2 fender inner wall to the airbox? It doesn't get replaced with the Mantec kit.

My air intake hose has completely disintegrated (which led to my water ingestion in the first place) - photo attached. I was thinking of getting a new intake hose in good condition and trying to get a sheet of that shrink wrap stuff and see if I can seal it up. Or just dip it in some of the plasti-dip that you use for tool handles.
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:06 PM
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Mine wasn't quite that bad but it was about to be, as a stop gap fix I got some high quality 3M self sealing electrical tape and wrapped it with a couple layers, then put it back on and added a hose clamp at the top and bottom for security.

Ideally I wanted an oval section of intercooler hose, but I haven't gotten around to finding it yet.
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:53 PM
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Is that hose cross-section rectangular or round?
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:09 PM
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I would have to say it is ovoid. Like a rectangle but with rounded corners.
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:09 PM
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Here is a photo from Atlantic British's website
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:18 PM
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New or relatively new hose is on the way from Will!
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Old 02-17-2018, 06:37 PM
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OK, I think I have pretty much rectified the shitty Land Rover disintegrating fabric air intake system. Got the salvaged intake hose from Will. It's in pretty good shape but the outside is still starting to crumble. No complaints as it is far better than what I was working with.

I bought some Plasti-Dip from the hardware store and was going to pour it/brush it on. Then I got to thinking of other options.

I found some 4" diameter heat-shrink tubing online and ordered a 10" long section. Listed on Amazon as "Insultab 30-VGA-4000B-P1 Vinylguard Shrink-To-Fit Covering, Polyvinyl Chloride, 4" Diameter, 1" X 12", Black." Not sure what the 1" refers to because it is indeed 4" diameter but my piece was only 10" and not 12". Fuckers. The shitty section of Land Rover air intake fabric tubing is exactly 12" circumference or 3.82" diameter.

I cut out a 6" long section of the heat-shrink tubing, slipped it over the shitty fabric section, and it worked like a champ. I first installed & silicone sealed on the upper portion that clamps to the engine bay inner fender wall. Then I overlapped the heat-shrink tubing over the connection. I heat-shrank it with my wife's hair dryer and it form-fit over the shitty fabric section. You can even see the weave through the heat-shrink. It's really thick stuff too, more plasticky than rubbery. Then I silicone sealed the remaining sections and I think I'm good to go. The only negative is the interior of the shitty fabric tubing will continue to deteriorate and get sucked into the airbox, but the filter will catch it. My old shitty fabric section had crumbled and hundreds of pieces of it were in the airbox.

I also convinced a hose manufacturer to send me a 12" sample of their extruded thru weave nitrile water discharge hose (the lay flat hoses you connect to trash pumps). Haven't received it yet but I'm curious to see it if would work. Would have to be liberal with silicone and then hose clamp it onto the plastic flanges. Some of that layflat hose is pretty flimsy so I'm worried that it would "suck in" and partially collapse.
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Old 02-17-2018, 06:39 PM
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Here's the heat-shrink over the stock piece, before shrinking
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Old 02-17-2018, 06:40 PM
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After shrinking
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Old 02-17-2018, 06:42 PM
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Old shitty one vs. new
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Old 02-17-2018, 06:44 PM
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old vs. new installed. Third pic is the heat-shrink tubing after I cut a 6" section. Note that it's not a soft rubber like the small stuff you use for small gauge electrical work.
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Old 02-17-2018, 09:20 PM
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Nice job. How is the inside of your “good”one?

If your bend the old one from ovoid to round, what is the ID and length? You may be able to use a round hose forced into the ovoid shape. This if the inside continues to deteriorate.
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Old 02-17-2018, 11:24 PM
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I thought about jamming a rubber hose in there (about 3.75 inch diam) but decided to leave good enough alone. Even if the interior continues to crumble I now have a pretty rigid PVC exterior so it should hold up.
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