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Old 06-22-2012, 02:29 PM
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I used the stock location with parts from Speedway Engineering...


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Old 06-22-2012, 04:42 PM
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:00 PM
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Dude you wheel like a girl. When you get something that flexes more than that terrafirma kit you can have an opinion.

Thanks for the pics Frank. I may ask you a couple more questions if I decide to go for it.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:09 PM
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sway bar? frank, you are now uninvited to sleep in my tent in september.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:10 PM
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sway bar? frank, you are now uninvited to sleep in my tent in september.
I bet his truck can out flex yours with the sway bar
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:32 PM
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it only controls body roll, I still have full travel...
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Old 06-23-2012, 10:47 AM
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Stiff, hard springs and shocks compensating for no sway bars are for lining chiropractor's pockets.

I'd love to pull some of the valving from my shocks to soften it up offroad, but the highway ride would not be to my liking since the stock sways are gone.

I like it.
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:11 PM
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Ok Frank here are some questions -

bar length, O.D. and rate. Arm length - which would probably be different for me mounting them on a d1.

and honestly - is the roll axis improvement worth the price
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:34 PM
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length is 37.5, 48 splined 1.75 ended with a 1.50 diameter bar(my tires and headlocks are heavy) and the arm's are the 613-5-1. Length of the control arm is determined by how much travel you have.

I planned a sway bar into my build, with that said, I run a slightly lighter spring so my ride is smoother on the washboards and with coil overs, I actually have options for spring rates and also have changed valve stack in the shocks to adjust my ride.

Is it worth it, depends how much it will be driven on-road and if you like hauling ass on fire roads getting to the trail...
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Old 06-23-2012, 01:48 PM
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Bar is 608-175 1.5"?
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:01 PM
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:03 PM
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yep...but that's gonna be too stiff for you, do you have the curb weight per corner and tire/rim weight of your truck?
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:11 PM
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Keep it going, Frank.
BTW, have you had a chance to revise the design of D1 rear trailing arms?
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:16 PM
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not really, just using a orbital joint instead of heim's...been working on a front radius arm adapter
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:18 PM
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After looking at the front end... Would the lowered frame mount for the stock radius arms make sense?
And I have one Ballistic 1" orbital joint sitting on my workbench. I'd buy another, and use both if I could.
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yep...but that's gonna be too stiff for you, do you have the curb weight per corner and tire/rim weight of your truck?
No but I suppose I could probably figure it out - this might be a stupid question but then how do you convert it to in/lbs at the 5* twist they measure it at?
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:25 PM
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not really, the I'm working on uses a custom frame mount, which means you cut the stock one off. This threads onto any radius arm (stock or aftermarket) and uses either a heim or orbital joint to eliminate binding...Make sense
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:33 PM
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I'm looking for the calculator that I used, I though I had it saved...
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:31 PM
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not really, the I'm working on uses a custom frame mount, which means you cut the stock one off. This threads onto any radius arm (stock or aftermarket) and uses either a heim or orbital joint to eliminate binding...Make sense
Are you talking about using a female orb joint on the front radius arms, with a custom frame mount?
That would be sweet.
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:37 PM
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Old 06-24-2012, 09:36 AM
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I bet his truck can out flex yours with the sway bar
jake,
i learned to wheel with a g-wagen, gwagen's flex about as well as my wife's bmw. so i had to pick different lines than my buddies in toyotas and rovers. i finally took my panties off and just ran their lines, which taught me to stop worrying about flopping or bending my truck. if it happens it happens, find a straight truck and swap everything over.

yes I'm sure frank's truck can out flex my truck, but at the end of the day I'm sure frank's mindset is much like mine, i drive my truck as if it is a loaner and the guy that loaned it to me is someone i could care less about.
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at his ride height he needs them...


when are you doing magic to my truck frank? I can come to tucson anytime
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i learned to wheel with a g-wagen, gwagen's flex about as well as my wife's bmw. so i had to pick different lines than my buddies in toyotas and rovers. i finally took my panties off and just ran their lines, which taught me to stop worrying about flopping or bending my truck. if it happens it happens, find a straight truck and swap everything over.

yes I'm sure frank's truck can out flex my truck, but at the end of the day I'm sure frank's mindset is much like mine, i drive my truck as if it is a loaner and the guy that loaned it to me is someone i could care less about.
Mike,

Cool story

You have obviously never wheeled with me.. I could give a shit less about flopping or denting my truck on the trail.

What I care about is keeping it straight on the road or being able to maintain control if I have to swerve to avoid an accident.
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Kevin, it's that proverbial East Coast vs. West Coast thing.
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