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Old 10-15-2018, 08:15 PM
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I've got some active cables, but they do hiccup on occasion,[snip]
HDMI fucked everyone. [snip]
Hell, that video is delivered to hundreds of houses on their street via coaxial cable; audio and all. [snip]

An example would be your converters for longer runs. [snip]
I loved DVI, though. [snip]
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active cables.
fuck me.
1-directional hdmi. fuck you. non-latching connectors.
what the fuck.

SDI. now THAT'S a fucking system, boy-o.

DVI, I could take or leave. not that hot above 50 feet.
it still has all the hdcp horseshit.

15-pin d-sub (i just call it VGA) works in the 100' range, for fucks sake.
and it's ANALOG.
when all the digital shit craps out, i fall back to vga or 5-wire (5 separate coax cables in a single outer jacket: red, green, blue, horizontal and vertical sync) analog.

anything over CAT6, fuck it.

coax.
it was good enough for your grandfather's cable tv, it's good enough for you.

most of my big source devices (switches and whatnot) are HD-SDI output.
run a couple hundred feet of that, convert to whatever the projector or monitor wants to see.
that's a bit of a pita, since now i need damned converters on every fucking cable.
1 more potential point of failure, which makes me less than happy.
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Old 10-17-2018, 04:06 PM
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active cables.
fuck me.
1-directional hdmi. fuck you. non-latching connectors.
what the fuck.

SDI. now THAT'S a fucking system, boy-o.

DVI, I could take or leave. not that hot above 50 feet.
it still has all the hdcp horseshit.

15-pin d-sub (i just call it VGA) works in the 100' range, for fucks sake.
and it's ANALOG.
when all the digital shit craps out, i fall back to vga or 5-wire (5 separate coax cables in a single outer jacket: red, green, blue, horizontal and vertical sync) analog.

anything over CAT6, fuck it.

coax.
it was good enough for your grandfather's cable tv, it's good enough for you.

most of my big source devices (switches and whatnot) are HD-SDI output.
run a couple hundred feet of that, convert to whatever the projector or monitor wants to see.
that's a bit of a pita, since now i need damned converters on every fucking cable.
1 more potential point of failure, which makes me less than happy.
SDI and Analog (component, s-video) were developed by broadcast engineers. HDMI was developed by computer engineers and MPAA lawyers.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:11 PM
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active cables.
fuck me.
1-directional hdmi. fuck you. non-latching connectors.
what the fuck.

SDI. now THAT'S a fucking system, boy-o.

DVI, I could take or leave. not that hot above 50 feet.
it still has all the hdcp horseshit.

15-pin d-sub (i just call it VGA) works in the 100' range, for fucks sake.
and it's ANALOG.
when all the digital shit craps out, i fall back to vga or 5-wire (5 separate coax cables in a single outer jacket: red, green, blue, horizontal and vertical sync) analog.

anything over CAT6, fuck it.

coax.
it was good enough for your grandfather's cable tv, it's good enough for you.

most of my big source devices (switches and whatnot) are HD-SDI output.
run a couple hundred feet of that, convert to whatever the projector or monitor wants to see.
that's a bit of a pita, since now i need damned converters on every fucking cable.
1 more potential point of failure, which makes me less than happy.
D Sub would actually be my personal choice.

Cheers,

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Old 10-23-2018, 09:39 PM
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What the hell are you turds doing here bitching about hdmi cables and jumper converters you need to be building a interstellar
Black hole spaceship or something your speaking way above the realm of head gaskets and conooter valves i just wanted to hear about what the lastest information infiltration tool not cracked yet is and who was runing it the russians or the australians because we all know china has bought australia and







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Old 10-23-2018, 09:40 PM
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All that info is very informative though thanks
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Old 10-24-2018, 05:18 PM
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anything over CAT6, fuck it.
coworker called me yesterday to help troubleshoot hdmi over cat6 baluns. AGPTEK brand devices, single (new) cat6 runs to conference rooms. It works on specific shorter runs, and for some reason it works when connecting to some locations from the coworker's desk to that conf room (patched through the wiring closet), but it doesn't work reliably from teh wiring closet to the conf room.
If we 'jump start' the connection by going between PC and TV A, we can move to TV B and it works. until you unplug the devices. It has to be a handshake problem, maybe RF in the wiring closet (switches, transformers and CCTV equipment in there)
I told him to try a different brand of devices, see if it fixes the problem.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:55 PM
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coworker called me yesterday to help troubleshoot hdmi over cat6 baluns. AGPTEK brand devices, single (new) cat6 runs to conference rooms. It works on specific shorter runs, and for some reason it works when connecting to some locations from the coworker's desk to that conf room (patched through the wiring closet), but it doesn't work reliably from teh wiring closet to the conf room.
If we 'jump start' the connection by going between PC and TV A, we can move to TV B and it works. until you unplug the devices. It has to be a handshake problem, maybe RF in the wiring closet (switches, transformers and CCTV equipment in there)
I told him to try a different brand of devices, see if it fixes the problem.
I've used Atlona. https://atlona.com/
It's DESIGNED for installation; CAT6E wiring.
The "transmitters" take HDMI in, change it to HDBaseT, the "receivers" take HDBaseT in, convert to HDMI.
It works well in a situation where the cable is protected, like in walls.
If I can run the cable so that no one can step on it, I'll use it.
Some of my monitors & projectors will take HDBaseT as an input.
I've never used it through patch panels.
My max has been a single 80-meter cable run, which has worked without issue..

HDCP (especially over HDMI) seems to require that the END device be connected & powered first, working back to source device.
This is ass-backward from my usual method, which is start at source and end at destination.
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