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Old 10-02-2018, 11:23 AM
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:44 PM
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Assuming this is the real deal, it's a major improvement over earlier ideas. Hard to tell if that is the full size of the rear glass, but in general the vehicle seems to be following the broader industry trend for smaller windows.
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:53 PM
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Nice, a bigger, uglier Kia Soul.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:57 PM
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There's far too much stuffed under that wrap to determine and details, and the details are what's going to matter.

We all know what a box looks like, but where is the break between the bumpers and the body? Just how squared off are those wheel arches? How much of the windows have been obscured? Things like that will determine how useful it is.

Some industry trends toward smaller windows come down to safety regulations. Just look at the new Wrangler with it's top off. It looks stupid because it has no choice.

I do know that Land Rover has stated that they believe this will blow the doors off the G Wagon off-pavement... We'll see.

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Old 10-02-2018, 02:11 PM
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Not really a spy shot with the 4x4xfar logo all over it...
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Nice, a bigger, uglier Kia Soul.
Spot on there.
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Old 10-02-2018, 02:54 PM
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Why is that LH drive? Is it the ROH version? Or just a test mule for the suspension, drive train stuff etc. Could be the D6 body.
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Old 10-02-2018, 04:10 PM
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Why is that LH drive? Is it the ROH version? Or just a test mule for the suspension, drive train stuff etc. Could be the D6 body.
The last test mule was a common body, as well. They really need to do a reveal, as the silhouette they presented doesn't look like this at all. If they don't show this thing by the end of the year, people who've been waiting to see it before buying a vehicle will lose interest.

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Old 10-02-2018, 04:14 PM
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I see air struts, relatively long control-arms, side-swing rear door, trapezoidal rather than rectangular cab, D3/4 style handles, large headlights, small D5-like grill, chunky Jeep-like mirrors, body set slightly higher on frame, front recovery hook centered directly between control arm mounts, steep rear-departure angle, larger than shown glass, and hashtags to indicate they're playing the teaser game.
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:05 PM
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The only thing theyve gotten right is the back door
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:58 PM
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I really hope there isn't a shelf right outside the windows. That ruins it for me. I can't imagine that is the real roofline. It looks like that guy has an entire foot of space above his head.
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:03 PM
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The only thing theyve gotten right is the back door




I dont know, the full width rear door of a disco is pretty awesome compared to the tiny rear door of a defender

Ive said for a long time they introduced the replacement for the defender in 89, and other than looking less rugged everything was an improvement
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Old 10-02-2018, 11:12 PM
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I think it is awful. Maybe it will grow on me, but i doubt it. Why can the Jeep Wrangler stick with solid axles, but LAND ROVER (the self-proclaimed industry standard) goes to independent with its "flagship" off-road model. Counter intuitive in my opinion. I totally understand the benefits of independent suspension, but I also TOTALLY understand its downfalls as well. Those of us that actually wheel our vehicles will have to always be complacent with building 20 year old vehicles for our needs...or buying Jeep...which I refuse to do.
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Old 10-03-2018, 08:50 AM
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:58 AM
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Look up the rest of the shots. It's actually kind of interesting from certain angles. One makes it almost look like we're seeing a removable top covering a bed.

Regardless, it's obvious there's a ton of junk under that wrap to confuse people, so it can look very different than it appears when removed. That's how tricky that manner of dazzle camouflage can be, though.

It's really frustrating stuff.

That said, this looks a hell of a lot more like a removable soft top than it does conventional bodywork. Remove the trickery, though, and it could be anything. They've obviously got stuff stuck to the "C pillars". Even so, that sure does look like a damned bed cover.

I sure hope it is, or that there will be an option, anyway. If it's got to be modern, I'd like a "Land Rover H3T".

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Old 10-03-2018, 12:06 PM
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You guys really think LR is driving around with a camouflage car with the huge label "BEST4X4BYFAR" on it? this is a fake decoy vehicle ..
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:18 PM
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You guys really think LR is driving around with a camouflage car with the huge label "BEST4X4BYFAR" on it? this is a fake decoy vehicle ..
Unlikely. They simply want the publicity, without giving up the design entirely. Same game product companies have been playing for years.
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:25 PM
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this is a fake decoy vehicle ..

A fake decoy? Does that mean it's the genuine article?
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:52 PM
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:20 PM
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A fake decoy? Does that mean it's the genuine article?
ha.. double negative.. I cannot confirm nor deny..
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:24 PM
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Unlikely. They simply want the publicity, without giving up the design entirely. Same game product companies have been playing for years.
Well, after being so secretive for so long, I''m betting this is a Decoy / Mule test vehicle.. for whatever platform.

too blatant..
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:35 AM
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That's what I spotted, and the more I look, the more I think it's on point.

I don't really see how the window glass angles reconcile with the rear bodywork unless that is a removable top of some variety. That's either a drop-top or it's not finished.

Why shouldn't it be, though? It may not be an old farm truck, but it's still a Defender; and quad cabs are very useful. They're also very popular now.

I wonder if Land Rover has been waiting to see whether or not Jeep really intended to release that pickup.

If that's what's going on here, I wouldn't be surprised to see some Avalanche-style trickery going on for added utility.

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Old 10-04-2018, 08:43 AM
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That's what I spotted, and the more I look, the more I think it's on point.

I don't really see how the window glass angles reconcile with the rear bodywork unless that is a removable top of some variety. That's either a drop-top or it's not finished.

Why shouldn't it be, though? It may not be an old farm truck, but it's still a Defender; and quad cabs are very useful. They're also very popular now.

I wonder if Land Rover has been waiting to see whether or not Jeep really intended to release that pickup.

If that's what's going on here, I wouldn't be surprised to see some Avalanche-style trickery going on for added utility.

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Talk about Avalanche; super ugly...
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:49 AM
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Talk about Avalanche; super ugly...
I got used to seeing them after a while.

Actually, it's probably one of the better vehicles they've made, though not one of the best looking.

It's not my thing, but they sure are popular. I think they jumped the gun by a few years with that.

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