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Old 10-02-2018, 02:57 PM
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Are spacers used just because they are cheaper and easier to find than the correct length and rate of springs?


Any advantage v disadvantage for them. Does it affect the overall goal, height of lift, performance of the spring, travel etc.?
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:19 PM
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depends on what you want to do. spacers do not give you more travel, just height. Springs do both. Some folks use a mix.
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Old 10-02-2018, 05:46 PM
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There's no reason to use spacers other than cost savings.

A good aftermarket suspension setup can greatly improve both on-road and off-road handling. Spacers will just throw off your suspension geometry with the benefit being more tire gap.
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Old 10-02-2018, 06:53 PM
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I run 3" springs and 1.5" spacers. I added the spacers when I went to 35" tires because a good 4.5-5" lift was not available at the time. This combo works just fine for me. I have tons of travel front and rear, partly due to the panhard link in the back (i got rid of the watts link) and all heim jointed steering components in the front.

BUT...to answer your question. I WOULD NOT run just spacers on stock flimsy springs....
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Old 10-02-2018, 07:45 PM
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A good aftermarket suspension setup can greatly improve both on-road and off-road handling.
I wonder which is it - haven't come across one in 20 years.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:46 AM
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I wonder which is it - haven't come across one in 20 years.

Funny - I've had the opposite experience - starting with my first many years ago, which was a used OME HD spring/shock combo.

Compared to the old, worn-out stock suspension, it would be difficult not to see an improvement in both areas.
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Old 10-03-2018, 11:31 AM
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I wonder which is it - haven't come across one in 20 years.
Heh. Stop by sometime and I'll carve you a few corners.

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Old 10-03-2018, 11:55 AM
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Compared to the old, worn-out stock suspension, it would be difficult not to see an improvement in both areas.
This.

Compared to not old and worn out stock suspension, everything else means giving up some ground.
I replaced a perfectly good stock suspension on ex-my green D1 with OME, and immediately found that I only gained a bit of body ground clearance. Everything else I lost, handling first and foremost.

Kennith, I call your bluff. I don't give a shit what suspension you have, but if you have non-stock geometry, your handling sucks compared to a new stock D2 suspension.

This topic has been beaten to death, in jeep circles a lot earlier than in land rover. If you want more clearance, cut a ton of sheetmetal, bolt on larger tires, and keep the suspension stock.
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There's no reason to use spacers other than cost savings.

A good aftermarket suspension setup can greatly improve both on-road and off-road handling. Spacers will just throw off your suspension geometry with the benefit being more tire gap.
Not necessarily. Some folks use spacers for leveling, etc. I would agree that in most cases a spring is a better solution to a problem.
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Old 10-06-2018, 12:38 AM
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This.

Compared to not old and worn out stock suspension, everything else means giving up some ground.
I replaced a perfectly good stock suspension on ex-my green D1 with OME, and immediately found that I only gained a bit of body ground clearance. Everything else I lost, handling first and foremost.

Kennith, I call your bluff. I don't give a shit what suspension you have, but if you have non-stock geometry, your handling sucks compared to a new stock D2 suspension.

This topic has been beaten to death, in jeep circles a lot earlier than in land rover. If you want more clearance, cut a ton of sheetmetal, bolt on larger tires, and keep the suspension stock.
You're right about the geometry, but it's not an issue with handling. Tracking on long straights isn't as ideal, but cornering is not adversely affected when combined with the rest of the system. It's capable, but in a slightly different way.

That places them neck and neck until you factor in the stiffer springs and what you can do with them when you leave the pavement for dirt, sand, and gravel.

I'll pit mine against a stock unit on pavement, and I'll pit it against a stock unit with ACE on a combined course.

My suspension isn't anything special, as anything beyond bolt-on becomes difficult to service or replace in the field. Right now, it's sitting on an OME combination; raked out like an unloaded pickup truck.

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A properly executed spacer kit is good enough and should not cause any problem.
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