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Old 05-25-2018, 01:03 PM
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:10 PM
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I can totally understand the choice.
It is a ubiquitous and unassuming vehicle, not screaming out loud "I am Taliban" or "I am the U.S.Government" like full-blown Cruisers and Suburbans do, or "I am mid-level narco trader" of G-Wagen fame (actually, 110s have a similar connotation).
The turbodiesel is indeed properly sized in it - not a gutless wonder or crankshaft breaker like our favorite brand's, and not the Big Three product (good for a moderately-sized container ship in ROW).

That said, I could never love a Prado, though my hate would be far more muted than in case of a 4-Runner or today's Lexus Darth Vader offerings.
Currently DSS is looking for options as the 1 ton Suburban is done and it's their main choice for level 6/7 armor vehicles. They are "testing" some options at their facility where I work. But depending on location/use they use everything from G wagons, Prado, LCs, etc. SOF in general are almost all Toyota based on "indigenous" vehicle and reliability. They have a 5 year dead line life on them, so it's sad to see them get destroyed so soon.
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Old 05-25-2018, 05:16 PM
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When most people can barely dream of purchasing these new you're telling me they crush them after 5 years?
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:03 AM
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If they were legal in the US, I would definitely get a Land Cruiser diesel like we had in Africa in 06. Freaking thing just worked and had basic washable interior. Solid trucks. Been all over Liberia with those and they just kept on going.
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Old 05-27-2018, 03:33 PM
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If they were legal in the US, I would definitely get a Land Cruiser diesel like we had in Africa in 06. Freaking thing just worked and had basic washable interior. Solid trucks. Been all over Liberia with those and they just kept on going.
Yup.

Can't get away from the things over there, which makes it triple-frustrating to get back and not be able to buy one.

The Land Cruiser 70, or whatever number they are on now, is a great vehicle that I actually think would be a great success in the US if brought in. Every country bumpkin out there would have one; pretty much like everywhere else in the world.

Toyota no longer has to get past being Japanese. The Tacoma eventually cured most people of that foolishness. Oh, they still want a GMC or whatever, but that won't stop them from having a jacked up Taco beside their American school bus.

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Old 05-28-2018, 01:22 PM
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When most people can barely dream of purchasing these new you're telling me they crush them after 5 years?
Yes. Just like similar armored BMW 7 series the Army and other groups have overseas. There is nothing "special" about them other than they are armored/added comms, etc. Anyone can purchase them. But DSS in particular dead-lines their armored vehicles at 5 years - then they become target practice, blown up and taken to somewhere to be destroyed completely. These are US spec vehicles modified by US armoring companies. It's pretty wasteful as these vehicles could be donated/sold to driving schools, etc. and get some use.
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Old 05-28-2018, 01:30 PM
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Yup.

Can't get away from the things over there, which makes it triple-frustrating to get back and not be able to buy one.

The Land Cruiser 70, or whatever number they are on now, is a great vehicle that I actually think would be a great success in the US if brought in. Every country bumpkin out there would have one; pretty much like everywhere else in the world.

Toyota no longer has to get past being Japanese. The Tacoma eventually cured most people of that foolishness. Oh, they still want a GMC or whatever, but that won't stop them from having a jacked up Taco beside their American school bus.

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79 Series. It has to the best vehicle made at this point. But again it's designed for shit roads at slower speeds. They are all over South America too and it's all you see the farmers drive at the local markets. We drove mostly Hiluxes all over the Andes, but the true work horse down there is the 79 series.

This guy has been trying for many years to get them imported legally. https://www.lc-america.com/ Still not too sure it will ever happen.

I still enjoy hearing the occasional person tell me they don't want to support Japanese car makers. If only they knew what they were talking about - as they head to Wal Mart.
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79 Series. It has to the best vehicle made at this point. But again it's designed for shit roads at slower speeds. They are all over South America too and it's all you see the farmers drive at the local markets. We drove mostly Hiluxes all over the Andes, but the true work horse down there is the 79 series.

This guy has been trying for many years to get them imported legally. https://www.lc-america.com/ Still not too sure it will ever happen.

I still enjoy hearing the occasional person tell me they don't want to support Japanese car makers. If only they knew what they were talking about - as they head to Wal Mart.
On the bright side, in a few years we'll be able to bring some in that will look pretty much like the new ones, and can probably be capable of bolt-on cosmetic updates like people do to Defenders.

I've always wanted a Defender 130 double cab high capacity pickup in Bonatti gray, or however it's spelled.

I don't want one enough to pay $150,000 for an old farm, truck, though.

There's one on Ebay right now, I think.

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Old 05-28-2018, 01:51 PM
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Hold on to that dream Kennith. Wait 1.5 years and you can buy one and I'll store it someplace for you awaiting its 25th birfday. That's what I'm planning on doing. Holding onto a lot of "stock" someplace. The Brits are too aware of the 25 year rule now. But stuff that isn't ripe yet has no additional value and the average joe or dealer can't just sit on the stuff.
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Currently DSS is looking for options as the 1 ton Suburban is done and it's their main choice for level 6/7 armor vehicles. They are "testing" some options at their facility where I work. But depending on location/use they use everything from G wagons, Prado, LCs, etc. SOF in general are almost all Toyota based on "indigenous" vehicle and reliability. They have a 5 year dead line life on them, so it's sad to see them get destroyed so soon.
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Hold on to that dream Kennith. Wait 1.5 years and you can buy one and I'll store it someplace for you awaiting its 25th birfday. That's what I'm planning on doing. Holding onto a lot of "stock" someplace. The Brits are too aware of the 25 year rule now. But stuff that isn't ripe yet has no additional value and the average joe or dealer can't just sit on the stuff.
I might just do that. Hadn't considered it. Thanks man.

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Toyotas are for people who think avocados are spicy.
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Toyotas are for people who think avocados are spicy.
My wife said I needed to get a reliable vehicle after we kept fixing the Volvo S80 with some random fix at least once a month. Also, she is sensitive to spicy foods.
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Did you get the v8? I heard the v6 was okay but could be problematic rarely.
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Stopped at a light behind a 4Runner yesterday. Jacked up at least 8 inches, 35s, no bumper, tiny axle tubes, tiny shocks, fragile looking leaf spring hangers. lol
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Did you get the v8? I heard the v6 was okay but could be problematic rarely.

I got the v6 model. I didn’t want the v8 because it requires a timing belt change. What problems have you heard about the 4.0 v6?
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Toyotas are for people who think avocados are spicy.
I'm more of a hummus guy. Oh and butter chicken. I actually found a decent place to eat in butthole, GA.

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I got the v6 model. I didn?t want the v8 because it requires a timing belt change. What problems have you heard about the 4.0 v6?
The timing belt change on the 4.7 is super easy.

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If you're going to do all that to a 4Runner, then might as well just buy a Jeep.
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This thing still way more comfortable and quiet than a Jeep. Oh and more reiable.
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