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Old 01-02-2018, 05:55 PM   #1
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Default Any such thing as a "99 D2" in a D1 BODY ?! - autotrader

This is bullshit right?

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...elCode1=DISCOV

I ran the vin which says on KBB 1999 & D2 but that body and interior are all D1. I have both and I know many of you do too or have previously.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:00 PM   #2
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Weird.

Interestingly enough, there's a separate mpls Craig's listing right now just like that.
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:06 PM   #3
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Default Re: Any such thing as a "99 D2" in a D1 BODY ?! - autotrader

Photos are of a D1. When I ran the VIN on KBB it says "1999 Land Rover Discovery SD", no mention of Series II.

You know there were 1999 D1's, right?
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:25 PM   #4
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SALJY is D1
SALTY is D2
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:25 PM   #5
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I assume there were 1999 d1's, but these guys are listing it as a D2 obviously. I swear I thought kbb gave me "DII" on the vin but maybe not
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:32 PM   #6
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Its a D1. Seller is a dope.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:11 PM   #7
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Low miles are a plus and interior is mostly in good shape. Price is too high, of course.
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:24 PM   #8
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That is a D1. Call it whatever the hell you want, but nothing that I see in any of the pictures is a D2. May as well call it a Freelander.
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Old 01-03-2018, 01:22 AM   #9
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yeah i let them know that he has it listed as a Discovery series "II" but it's actually a "I" and the idiot wrote back:

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Thanks for your interest in our 1999 Land Rover Discovery. This vehicle is still available for sale and it runs and drives great! The vin number is the correct one to this vehicle. Is there anything that I can assist you with? Thanks!


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Gustavo Ramos
8975 W Brown Deer Rd
Milwaukee, Wi 53224
Phone 414 365 1455

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Old 01-03-2018, 09:35 AM   #10
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I've lost count how many D1/D2 mix-ups that I've seen on craigslist.
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99 was a split year for the Disco! Ones went away and twos were born
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Old 01-03-2018, 05:54 PM   #12
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That is a D1. Call it whatever the hell you want, but nothing that I see in any of the pictures is a D2. May as well call it a Freelander.
No he's just a dirtball with a BluBook. He sees that a 99D2 is worth more than a 99D1 so he has a D2. Simple math really.
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:33 PM   #13
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i reported it to autotrader - not sure if that shit does any good or not
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maybe it did do good. listing gone. i've never seen an autotrader listing dissappear quickly even when the thing is sold. it's been 1 day since asshole asked me if i was interested.
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:24 PM   #15
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Don't waste your time with that thing. Or any small-time used car lot, for that matter. I have a suspicion - and absolutely zero evidence to substantiate it - that the cars on those used lots are more likely to conceal big problems. If a seller can't move a car on the private market they go to a used car lot as a last resort. The used car lot won't pay what a private party will, but the owner either knows there is something big wrong and wants to pass the hot potato OR is so desperate to sell that they are willing to accept the smaller payout. Either way, I don't want to buy that car. Wait until you find a seller who knows what he has and can answer questions about it intelligently.
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:42 AM   #16
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I have seen some people in the UK reference the 94-98 D1 as a D2. They justify it as: it is a 2 generation D1 with facelift and revised interior. They then reference the 99-04 as a Discovery series 2. Still not right but try to argue with someone on the other side of the pond when you are on this side.
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Old 01-04-2018, 01:25 PM   #17
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I have seen some people in the UK reference the 94-98 D1 as a D2. They justify it as: it is a 2 generation D1 with facelift and revised interior. They then reference the 99-04 as a Discovery series 2. Still not right but try to argue with someone on the other side of the pond when you are on this side.
It wasn't just the facelift. LR introduced the 300TDI engine partway through the D1 lifespan. Would have been about 1994. Still, not enough to justify a name change. The NAS D2 got a different engine in 2003-2004 and it was still the D2.
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I have seen some people in the UK reference the 94-98 D1 as a D2. They justify it as: it is a 2 generation D1 with facelift and revised interior. They then reference the 99-04 as a Discovery series 2. Still not right but try to argue with someone on the other side of the pond when you are on this side.
Ive encountered this facia update confusion too, but it was domestic auto parts store cashiers trying to sell me the wrong air filter.
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.... They then reference the 99-04 as a Discovery series 2. Still not right but try to argue with someone on the other side of the pond when you are on this side.
This nomenclature is actually 100% correct, at least for a Discovery 1999-2004. The factory badges say as much. There's one on my 2003.

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None of this is as bad as the folks that type D2 or Disco 2 as D11. DII would be fine, but D11 makes me want to throw things.
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None of this is as bad as the folks that type D2 or Disco 2 as D11. DII would be fine, but D11 makes me want to throw things.
Got 6 more to go for a Disco eleven
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I suppose that they don't know the difference between "11" and "II".
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I suppose that they don't know the difference between "11" and "II".
They probably think everyone else is an idiot for using "II". After all, "I" isn't a number!
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Back in 99 Land Rover told us that the correct name for the LJ Discovery was just Discovery and the LT Discovery was The Discovery 2. Most of us who have worked on Rovers for a long time just like to look at the 3rd and 4th letter in the vin. You have LD, LJ, LT, LF, LP, LM, LV. Every repair order for a Range Rover says just Range Rover on the vehicle description. Then You have to look at the vin and figure out what your looking for. I find myself calling a Disco 1 an LJ Disco as apposed to an LT Disco.
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Most of the 99 D1 models were SD with no sunroof like mine. Paid $1200 for mine like 7 years ago with 115000 miles on it in great shape. The center diff lock was not engaged and they did not know what was wrong with it. Bought it crawled under and lubed mechanism engaged it and drove off.
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