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Old 08-29-2018, 04:27 PM
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I recently bought a 2003 SE7 on the cheap. Really liking the vehicle despite having to fix many items that required ZERO dollars and just a little outside the box ingenuity and youtube. Here is my next step:

The vehicle was put into a ditch during the last winter storm by the previous owner. The front end was never fixed correctly and the vehicle was "aligned" to the bent position. The rack looks salvageable however I would probably like to replace the rest of the moving parts. Can someone tell me exactly what I would need to order to achieve this? I have seen several kits however I cannot tell if I need all of the items or would be better off piecemealing just the needed parts. I would think the first two items I would need are steering arm and tie rods but while in Rome, I might as well get er done. As of right now she drives straight but the turning radius is severely limited (25 to 30 degrees past center is all Im able to turn lock to lock)

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Old 08-29-2018, 05:28 PM
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What rack looks salvageable?
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Old 08-30-2018, 02:16 AM
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rack and pinion

Is that a thing?

Apathy here
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Old 08-30-2018, 06:28 AM
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I have all the items you would need. Give me a call.

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Old 08-30-2018, 12:49 PM
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rack and pinion

Is that a thing?
Not in your Disco.
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Old 08-30-2018, 12:57 PM
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Apathy here
If you're going to attempt repairs to your steering components by yourself you may achieve better results by taking an active interest in understanding the mechanical systems involved.
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Old 08-30-2018, 01:46 PM
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If you're going to attempt repairs to your steering components by yourself you may achieve better results by taking an active interest in understanding the mechanical systems involved.
But the door said "Beware of the Leopard"...

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what does "aligned" to the bent position mean? your steering wheel is not aligned?
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:37 PM
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Put the front end on jack stands, start it up in park and have someone run the steering wheel lock to lock to see what is binding. If it is as bad as you say, probably not safe to drive.

"I tried to miss that truck, but my steering was binding and I could not get out of the way"
Loose the apathy or get another vehicle.
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Old 08-30-2018, 07:14 PM
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But the door said "Beware of the Leopard"...

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Is that a Douglas Adams reference? Planning department notices accessible to the public in the file cabinet in the basement lavatory?
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Old 08-31-2018, 09:26 AM
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Is that a Douglas Adams reference? Planning department notices accessible to the public in the file cabinet in the basement lavatory?
Indeed it is.

The "taking an interest" part in your post just reminded me of humanity receiving that amusing lecture.

Couldn't help myself.

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Old 09-01-2018, 11:27 PM
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like the help part, not so much the judgement.. lol There was sarcasm at play. great idea on the lock to lock to figure out bind.
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Old 09-01-2018, 11:43 PM
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What do you call the steering box? @p.m admin
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Old 09-01-2018, 11:44 PM
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not helpful.. thanks @tugela
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Old 09-02-2018, 08:56 AM
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what does "aligned" to the bent position mean? your steering wheel is not aligned?
I'm sure he means that the truck was adjusted to make the steering wheel straight while it's still really bent to shit. I'm sure also he meant that his steering box seems ok. Lets get him up to speed. There isn't really anything else to do since the political shit ran off half the cool kids.

Your going to have to figure out whats bent. If you look closely at the pitman arm in the area that it mounts to the steering box(google is your friend). At the end that attaches to the splines on the box, there is a small notch that would align with a small hole on the box. Get under there and looking up from the ground hopefully you will find it. Line up those two areas to the point that it looks like you could put a bolt thru the arm and into the box. That should be steering straight ahead and at that point it should be easier to see what steering component is bent.

Keep in mind when they get stuffed really good like you say your truck did the pitman shaft in the box could be twisted.
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Old 09-04-2018, 02:46 PM
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Thank you .. that's what I need.. I will get back to you when I get under there
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:21 PM
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What do you call the steering box? @p.m admin
You call it... steering box. All Discovery (up to 2004 MY) and Range Rover (up to 2002 MY) steering boxes were of the worm/sector shaft type.
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Old 09-11-2018, 12:06 PM
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how is it sold online? oops
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Old 09-11-2018, 12:43 PM
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Here is a link to the part for sale on Atlantic British.

This is what the steering box looks like:



If the price is more than you want to pay, the good news is that there are several vendors who frequent this site that would be happy to sell you a quality used part for less money. Start with Will Tillery, Drillbit, and Paul Grant.

Here is a link to RAVE, which is the Land Rover technical manual. Download it. Open it. Search it. Read it. This will give you a wealth of information about how your steering system works, how to take it apart, and how to put it back together. Invest some time in studying this resource. You will gain much more from a basic understanding of the RAVE schematics and procedures than you will from asking "what do you call the steering box?". Once you know what the parts are called, how they fit together, and how they interact, you'll be able to ask much more valuable questions that will get you to a solution faster.

Folks here are always happy to help, but you will also find that the quality of the help improves as you take a more proactive role in educating yourself about your mechanical issues.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:16 AM
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OK so here's the update. The drop arm looks like its bent and took a significant blow into the frame. This is what is causing the bind in the steering from lock to lock. The box is leaking from the lower seal but in working order. For the price difference, I think my only option is to buy a new arm in hopes that the splines are not damages and a rebuild kit for the box. Thoughts? While under the vehicle I will be replacing the drag link and trackbar. The upper and lower ball joints at the hub seem ok so ill wait on them if possible. Thanks for the links!!
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:05 AM
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The drop arm (Pitman arm?), IIRC, is cast iron - if it is in any way different from factory shape, throw it out. I would also be wary of damaged bearings on the sector shaft - if the hit was hard enough to mangle the Pitman arm, I'd be surprised if the box survived intact.

BTW, I just looked at AB website - D2 arm is different from D1/RRC:
This is D2: https://www.roverparts.com/Parts/QJF000030G
This is D1: https://www.roverparts.com/Parts/NTC9235
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:57 AM
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Update, the steering box and arm are in good shape and the leak is coming from the pump above. There is no bind per say but I'm still concerned with the wheel angle lock to lock. Do these trucks just not have a tight turning radius? I'm getting 2.75 to 3.0 rotations from the steering wheel lock to lock. I believe that's lower than the stock ratio on a stock box. (I was able to degrease the engine after years of unmanaged leaks etc. and can see much better now.)
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:01 AM
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Thinking about throwing drag link and track bar at it and taking it to an alignment shop.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:08 AM
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The steering box requries approximately 3.5 turns from lock to lock.
Directly from the RAVE pdf. Have you down loaded it yet?
I would take it to an alignment shop first, at least they might be able to tell you what's wrong since you don't seem to be able to diagnose it on your own.
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Old 09-16-2018, 02:36 PM
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Well... There's the only alignment that can be done on RRC/D1/D2 - toe angle. And that can be accomplished with a 25-ft stretch of cord.

OTOH... the alignment shop could measure the wheel angles - so it may show you if any of the axle housings is damaged.
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