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Old 09-22-2018, 11:44 AM
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What are you guys using?

My next vehicle will be a pickup truck due to ability to haul supplies for home projects and my ice fishing gear. I also want it to be able to safely and comfortably tow my 94 D1 out west to Colorado and Utah.

I have no brand loyalty, though I'm wary of Dodge due to rust issues I've witnessed and a transmission failure I've experienced on my 05 Grand Caravan.
Must haves: 4wd. 4 doors/comfortably seat 5 people. 6ft bed. Ability to tow a built 94D1 on a car trailer. Reliable. No premature rust issues.
Don't care about lifted, diesel, big tires, or 1000 bells and whistles. Not looking to spend over 50k. Would prefer it closer to 30k even if that means buying used.
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Old 09-22-2018, 02:46 PM
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F150 ecoboost or the Toyota Tundra. Ive been contemplating the same thing for a while. Problem is I cant justify the price of the truck for my needs. Which is only occasionally towing the Rover to events.
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Old 09-22-2018, 04:10 PM
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FWIW. Having operated a transmission shop for 15 years all trucks have problems. Some less than others. We also rebild and repair engines, suspension... everything but tires and alignment. Most of the newer trucks(ford, ram/fiat, chevy, nissan) are 6 or 8 speed transmissions and few go past 150-200k miles, this means big $$ to rebuild or buy trans. Toyota and nissan are the exception for trans life. The chevy engines with drop cylinder (DOD) are garbage, ford has eco boost and forced induction never equals lifespan. Dodge has electrical grimlins worse than a Rover. None of these trucks are worth what the stealerships want. I have a 2013 f-150 crew cab 4x4 with the 5.0L, bought in 2015 with 10k mi. for $18k Did I choose right? Time will tell. It pulls my D2 on my 22ft car hauler with ease.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:08 PM
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You need a god damn Cummins turba diesel.
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Old 09-22-2018, 07:35 PM
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You need a god damn Cummins turba diesel.
Roll some coal or something, right?
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:01 PM
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Roll some coal or something, right?
I thought it was blowing coal. If you don't like to tow then your truck is probably not big enough. If I was looking I would get a bigger GM truck with the Alison Trans. Common rail diesel engines are just to expensive to fix. So I would stay away from those since your really only talking 6,000 lbs plus the trailer. Seems like a good gas engine should do that.
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Old 09-22-2018, 08:12 PM
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You need a god damn Cummins turba diesel.
Older 5.9L Cummings are great, the Dodge trucks they came in are good also. Stay away from the new 6.7L Cummings.
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Old 09-22-2018, 09:13 PM
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Get an 00-06 GM 6.0 or 8.1 liter gas 2500 pickup or suburban. That will help you decide what you actually want.
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Old 09-23-2018, 08:07 PM
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The GM 6.0L has to be one of the toughest engines I've seen. Expect 14-10 mpg, but reliable they are.
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Old 09-23-2018, 09:31 PM
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I've never driven a Dodge that drives straight own the road after 90k miles.

I've owned Ford and Chevy diesels. Hands down the Duramax has the most power and comfortable ride. If I were to ever buy another diesel it would be another Duramax.

That said, I have a 2008 Duramax for sale. 4x4, 4dr, short bed, goose neck, deleted and EFi Live w/DSP5. You can cruise at 80mph towing a boat and still talk on your cell phone. Very powerful and quick. $28k
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Old 09-23-2018, 10:00 PM
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My LR3 has been awesome. Sure...its not the most practical "tow vehicle", but with the air suspension it does great! AND it get 12-13 mpg while towing. That is significantly better than the D2 gets just driving without towing. Those 35" tires take a lot of gas to turn!With a good brake controller the LR3 does a great job!

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Old 09-24-2018, 08:05 AM
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I really liked the 2003 2500 hd 4x4 dodge ram that had a 5.7 hemi. It had 195k I think when I traded it to carmax. It was maintained really well by a private company before I traded for it. It drove really well.

I think high mileage trucks need to have been owned by companies or people who cared to make the used purchase worthwhile.

If you don't buy new I'd recommend carmax only to get their outrageous warranty.
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Old 09-24-2018, 08:24 AM
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I got a good deal on my 7.3 F-250, but I wish I had saved up more and gone with a bulletproofed 6.0. The positives of the 7.3 (will run forever, relatively simple/cheap to work on, no emissions components) are largely offset by things like its atrocious ride (leaf springs on the front axle vs. coils on the 6.0 trucks), 0-60 pace of mid-sized glacier, and general lack of creature comforts. It really doesn't give a shit what's behind it, though, I'll say that for it.
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Old 09-24-2018, 12:06 PM
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Made the same move a few months ago. It came down to the F150 or Sierra.

RAM: I dislike most Chrysler products and RAM seems to have capitalized on the fat cowboy demographic. I do like the four corner coil suspension though. Nice ride. Terrible design.

Chevy: Looks like megatron. Not interested.

Toyota: Ancient platform with terrible economy far overdue for an overhaul.

Nissan: Slightly underwhelming in most measures

That left Ford and GMC. I wanted the newer designs which meant 2015+ F150 or 2014+ Sierra.

Almost picked up a cheapo 2014 Sierra 1500 with Z71 package for 22k, but after having second kid, decided we wanted all optional safety features.

Extended cabs are adequate for loading kids and some gear. Crew cabs are huge now and feel like they have twice the room of an LR3/4. We decided on the crew so we could load as much people/stuff as possible and those little fuckers in the back can't reach out far enough to kick the back of our front seats.

We decided on the short-bed as well to keep the wheelbase shorter for our mountain adventures. A longer bed would have been useful a few times, but every choice is a compromise.

Ultimately got the F150 because:
More features we were looking for, due to being a newer platform
Better fuel economy to power ratio
Preferred the interior design
Lightly used Sierra 1500s were unobtanium around here

I'll sum up the Ford engine options:
2.7 EcoBoost: Best daily driving economy
5.0: Best towing economy
3.5 EcoBoost: Most power

The Chevy/GMC 6.2L V8 is a sweet engine though, if you don't care about efficiency.
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Old 09-24-2018, 03:09 PM
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Chevy: Looks like megatron. Not interested.

That left Ford and GMC. I wanted the newer designs which meant 2015+ F150 or 2014+ Sierra.
You do know that GMC and Chevy are the same truck?
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Old 09-24-2018, 04:10 PM
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You do know that GMC and Chevy are the same truck?
They're not the same truck. Although similar exterior appearance there are many differences. Different front-ends, grills, hoods, lights/fog lights, tail lights...... Also depends on the trim package.
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Old 09-24-2018, 06:01 PM
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You do know that GMC and Chevy are the same truck?
Yes, except one looks like an angry robot.
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Old 09-28-2018, 10:10 AM
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Yes, except one looks like an angry robot.
The other looks like a Ridgeline 1.0 modified to clean up bikini lines.

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I know two people that had late-model Rams that were lemoned-out because of electrical gremlins.
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Old 09-28-2018, 11:11 AM
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Have a 2009 Ram and tons of issues. Love the 5.7L but electrical suff is messing right now.
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My old man just picked up a 17 f150 with the ecoboost and pulls a 25' OTA gooseneck with a kioti 7320cab with loader with zero issues. IIRC it has more towing capacity than the v8, which still does not make sense to me. Its more than my older 5.3 sierra wants to tow.
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Old 10-03-2018, 12:56 PM
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My old man just picked up a 17 f150 with the ecoboost and pulls a 25' OTA gooseneck with a kioti 7320cab with loader with zero issues. IIRC it has more towing capacity than the v8, which still does not make sense to me. Its more than my older 5.3 sierra wants to tow.
The V8 has a broader torque band and pulls hills better than the Eco. They're about the same on paper. Biggest difference is when something breaks, that's when you wish you didn't have the Eco.
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Old 10-03-2018, 01:16 PM
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The V8 has a broader torque band and pulls hills better than the Eco. They're about the same on paper. Biggest difference is when something breaks, that's when you wish you didn't have the Eco.
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/real-...413337/index2/

See post 2, 3, 5, 12, and 13.

Reliability has been solid. There's the valve carbon issue on 1st gen EB engines, but few in the real world experience it.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:48 PM
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The V8 has a broader torque band and pulls hills better than the Eco. They're about the same on paper. Biggest difference is when something breaks, that's when you wish you didn't have the Eco.
I agree with that. I would say with a 50k budget you can get a quality tow rig in a newer powerstroke anywhere with bells and whistles. If solely using for towing long distance, I would look at a diesel 3/4 ton for long haul comfort. If you are using it around town and medium payload hauls I would look at a gasser. Again, at that budget you can pretty much choose based on personal preference IMO.
I'm sure there is plenty of opinion, but I personally prefer a gooseneck over a bumper pull car hauler on any half ton truck.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:23 PM
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it's been mentioned, but a 7.3 Powerstroke. these trucks run for ever. my 2001 has over 350,000 miles on it.

of course, it does eat starters. i think i have put five or six in it.
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