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View Poll Results: How much did Russian meddling affect your vote?
My vote was severely impacted by Russian meddling. 5 15.63%
Russian meddling moderately affected my vote. 0 0%
My vote was unswayed by said meddling. 23 71.88%
I am uncertain to what extend my vote was meddled with. 4 12.50%
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Cue the lefty Alex Jones.
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Are you auditioning? You'd be good at it. And too much competition on the right, the left is wide open. Good luck!
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Didn't the left just pick up Dr. Ford? Seems to me they are stacked.
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Interesting reporting/review on how the US and allies have their eyes on Russia's hacking, and other activities (aka, killing people).

A public warning to Putin: Knock it off

The dry pages of the indictment reveal tradecraft secrets that could animate a half-dozen spy novels. The GRU operatives used spoof websites to ?spearphish? victims into revealing login information (creating a ?westinqhousenuclear.com? site, with the misspelled ?q,? for example). They made payments in bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. (Weren?t those supposed to be untraceable?) They used malware tools with names such as ?Gamefish,? ?Chopstick? and ?X-tunnel.? They dumped their hacked information by sending direct messages on Twitter to 116 reporters and exchanging emails with 70 journalists.

For the past few years, the CIA, NSA and FBI have watched as hackers and whistleblowers (perhaps with a helping hand from Moscow) revealed the agencies? hacking techniques. For U.S. intelligence officials, revenge is a dish best eaten cold.

The most astonishing disclosure came from the Dutch, who caught four GRU officers red-handed in The Hague as they were hacking the headquarters of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. As Dutch intelligence officers intervened, ?the conspirators abandoned their equipment,? including a backpack and other gear that revealed techniques and a string of other operations, according to the indictment. The Dutch even found a taxi receipt showing that a member of the team had left the rear entrance of the GRU headquarters in Moscow and headed to the airport.

The implicit message in all of this: If you hit us, one of the ways we will retaliate is by exposing your operatives, sources and methods. There are other reprisals underway, but these public disclosures undermine the GRU?s operational capabilities. And they must make the Russian spy service wonder: What else do the Americans and their allies know? If agent A is blown, then what about his colleagues B, C and D?
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Long, but a very good read about knowledge and disinformation in today's world.

The Constitution of Knowledge
Will Trump and the trolls triumph? I doubt it. Weaponized trolling has enjoyed the advantage of surprise, but as that diminishes, the troll army will encounter a disadvantage. Trolls have swarms, but the constitution of knowledge has institutions.

Creating knowledge is inherently a professionalized and structured affair. Whether you are engaged in bench chemistry, daily journalism, or intelligence analysis, testing hypotheses requires time, money, skill, expertise, and intricate social interaction. Of course, ordinary people can and should participate, and the constitution of knowledge welcomes their efforts. Anyone who follows the rules can make a contribution, as amateur astronomers and geologists have been doing for centuries, and no one is jailed for being wrong. But at the core of the constitution of knowledge, by its very nature, are professional networks.


And before you think this is all about Trump being a bullshit artist...


On campus, conservative speakers are often shunned, shouted down, denounced in hysterical terms. An unguarded statement, even if not obviously controversial ? say, a suggestion that grown-up students at Yale should not need university guidance about their Halloween costumes ? can ignite a firestorm. Many otherwise outspoken students, including many who do not think of themselves as particularly conservative, say they will not discuss race or gender on campus, for fear of being called out. As one recent Ivy League graduate told me, "It's all downside."

The large majority of professional scholars strive to conduct gold-standard research, and many if not most students quietly resent the call-out culture. But theirs are not the dominant voices on campus or in the media. News stories about campus intolerance and unreason ricochet throughout the media to portray the university as a place that puts political standards ahead of professional ones. No wonder much of the public has formed the impression that academia is not trustworthy.
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The large majority of professional scholars strive to conduct gold-standard research, and many if not most students quietly resent the call-out culture. But theirs are not the dominant voices on campus or in the media. News stories about campus intolerance and unreason ricochet throughout the media to portray the university as a place that puts political standards ahead of professional ones. No wonder much of the public has formed the impression that academia is not trustworthy.
Um....yeah, right
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Long, but a very good read about knowledge and disinformation in today's world.
Since you think that's a "good read" maybe you should double down with these "good reads" (they're not, they are just as full of shit as the one you posted). What it does do is point out how both the media and academia want to direct your thinking to the left. Read it and then ask your self how and why does a Harvard Law professor conveniently forget that the United States is a federal republic?? Or why is this ass clown allowed to spew forth such shit at the university level?? Oh, I know why but the answer invalidated the ass clown that wrote the piece you posted.
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/12/17950...h-constitution
https://balkin.blogspot.com/2016/05/...h-liberal.html
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Well look at these co-signers...

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...with-bruce-ohr
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Since you think that's a "good read" maybe you should double down with these "good reads" (they're not, they are just as full of shit as the one you posted). What it does do is point out how both the media and academia want to direct your thinking to the left. Read it and then ask your self how and why does a Harvard Law professor conveniently forget that the United States is a federal republic?? Or why is this ass clown allowed to spew forth such shit at the university level?? Oh, I know why but the answer invalidated the ass clown that wrote the piece you posted.
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/12/17950...h-constitution
https://balkin.blogspot.com/2016/05/...h-liberal.html
Suggestion: use that grey matter packed (apparently loosely) between your ears and read, and think. At what point did that article say every professor or every author is an expert and should be listened to?

Hint: It didn't.


It specifically said the exact opposite - you need to have knowledge to be able to discern the bullshit from the useful. Back to that whole knowledge and experience thing.

But, clearly, you are in the Brian camp - any moron can understand and develop a successful global policy just like any moron can do brain surgery, or grow crops.
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Suggestion: use that grey matter packed (apparently loosely) between your ears and read, and think. At what point did that article say every professor or every author is an expert and should be listened to?

Hint: It didn't.


It specifically said the exact opposite - you need to have knowledge to be able to discern the bullshit from the useful. Back to that whole knowledge and experience thing.

But, clearly, you are in the Brian camp - any moron can understand and develop a successful global policy just like any moron can do brain surgery, or grow crops.
"The large majority of professional scholars strive to conduct gold-standard research" Right here....I love this too "Will Trump and the trolls triumph? I doubt it. Weaponized trolling has enjoyed the advantage of surprise, but as that diminishes, the troll army will encounter a disadvantage. Trolls have swarms, but the constitution of knowledge has institutions." Great fucking "journalism" right there.....everything pro Trump is "trolling"... He wrote everything people like you want and need to hear......the skin of reason stuffed with a lie. Wake the fuck up
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News flash: Majority does not equal ALL.

As I said, read, then think.

Oh, and as for trolling, isn’t that what Brian and Dan, and I believe you have said- “he just says shit to get the left rilled up. All you dumbasses fall for it. It’s so funny!”
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Dumbasses got Trump a win. Winning ever since. Hard to be a loser isn't it, Scott.
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Looks like Trump is emulating Dan and Brian.

#putupOrshutup

Warren releases DNA test suggesting distant Native American ancestor
At the July rally, Trump said, "I'm going to get one of those little [DNA testing] kits and in the middle of the [presidential] debate, when she proclaims she's of Indian heritage. 'And we will say, "I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you?re an Indian." And we'll see what she does. I have a feeling she will say no, but we will hold it for the debates."

The DNA analysis, by Carlos D. Bustamante, a Stanford University professor, concludes that - the vast majority - of Warren?s ancestry is European but that "the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual's pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago."

"Please send the check to the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center," [Warren] wrote, describing the organization as "a nonprofit working to protect Native women from violence."

Asked about his pledge Monday, Trump denied to reporters having made it.

"I didn't say that. You better read it again," he said.
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Well technically according to the test Warren has less Native blood in her than the average American.



https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014...many-americans


Warren's "test" puts her at 1/1024 or 0.097.

The White American average genetic makeup is 98.6% European, 0.19% African, and 0.18% Native American.

She's less native than the Average American. I think she should shut up.

Trump did say if the test proved she's an Indian. Having 0.097% doesn't prove anything.
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Warren releases DNA test suggesting distant Native American ancestor
At the July rally, Trump said, "I'm going to get one of those little [DNA testing] kits and in the middle of the [presidential] debate, when she proclaims she's of Indian heritage. 'And we will say, "I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you?re an Indian." And we'll see what she does. I have a feeling she will say no, but we will hold it for the debates."

The DNA analysis, by Carlos D. Bustamante, a Stanford University professor, concludes that - the vast majority - of Warren?s ancestry is European but that "the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual's pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago."

"Please send the check to the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center," [Warren] wrote, describing the organization as "a nonprofit working to protect Native women from violence."

Asked about his pledge Monday, Trump denied to reporters having made it.

"I didn't say that. You better read it again," he said.
I'll just use your verbiage
News flash: "strongly support" does not equal "Injin heritage".
Suggestion: use that grey matter packed (apparently loosely) between your ears and read, and think. At what point did that article say she is an actual honest Injun?

Hint: It didn't. It said, based on a statistically inconclusive variance that possibly 6-10 generations back someone might have played cowgirls and Indians behind the barn ......
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I'll just use your verbiage
News flash: "strongly support" does not equal "Injin heritage".
Suggestion: use that grey matter packed (apparently loosely) between your ears and read, and think. At what point did that article say she is an actual honest Injun?

Hint: It didn't. It said, based on a statistically inconclusive variance that possibly 6-10 generations back someone might have played cowgirls and Indians behind the barn ......
You missed the whole point: He issued a bet. She took the test, and Trump's bet - he lost. Now he's claiming he never made said bet. Not that she wasn't indian - THAT HE NEVER SAID IT; which is a straight up lie.

As to if she's an actual indian, 1/1024 heritage is ridiculously low, and I don't give a shit if she's able to get a check from a reservation or not - she's still a fuck wit. And Trump is a still a lying, reneging, bitch.
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You missed the whole point: He issued a bet. She took the test, and Trump's bet - he lost. Now he's claiming he never made said bet. Not that she wasn't indian - THAT HE NEVER SAID IT; which is a straight up lie.

As to if she's an actual indian, 1/1024 heritage is ridiculously low, and I don't give a shit if she's able to get a check from a reservation or not - she's still a fuck wit. And Trump is a still a lying, reneging, bitch.
Umm, no......and you missed the entire fact that she didn't prove shit.
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The Cherokee Nation says she's full of shit too.
""A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is prove. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

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Trump should donate $1M * (1/1024) = $977 to her chosen charity. That would be classic.
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Umm, no......and you missed the entire fact that she didn't prove shit.
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You missed the whole point: Now he's claiming he never made said bet. Not that she wasn't indian - THAT HE NEVER SAID IT; which is a straight up lie.
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The DNA results did not show she's an Indian. It showed she has less Indian in her than the average American.

Reading IS fundamental. Regardless of how the media is framing this she didn't show she's an Indian.

What TRUMP should do is donate to a Native American charity and what Warren should do is stand up and say "I guess all those family fireside tales were wrong, sorry."
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The DNA results did not show she's an Indian. It showed she has less Indian in her than the average American.

Reading IS fundamental. Regardless of how the media is framing this she didn't show she's an Indian.

What TRUMP should do is donate to a Native American charity and what Warren should do is stand up and say "I guess all those family fireside tales were wrong, sorry."
Sweet. Baby. Jeebus.

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