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Old 12-12-2015, 08:38 AM
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Hey one time I did a Time laps photo stream of an engine replacement . Thought some of you would find this interesting. Great way to spend a couple days if you have nothing planned.

I start with the wheel opening moldings and wheel house liners.
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Old 12-12-2015, 08:42 AM
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Bumper covers and all exterior lighting that needs to come off to enable that
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Old 12-12-2015, 08:48 AM
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Are you going to be pulling the body off the frame?
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Old 12-12-2015, 08:49 AM
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Next I start to seperate anything that stays with the body from the engine and chassis. Notice that the engine and trans harnesses will come out of the holder near the battery box and the box that contains the master cylinder. Comes aprt very easily and can be laid on top of the engine like I have them here. Heater hoses ...same deal. if it goes with the body disconnect it.
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Old 12-12-2015, 08:53 AM
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A few more pics related to the last post. Notice how the battery box and the master cylinder box have been removed for access. they come apart in sections and the only part of them that stays on the vehicle is the outer part of the floor of each box.
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:00 AM
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After the engine comparment is ready for its seperation the chassis is next. In the wheel wells we need to disconnect the brake lines from the body and get any ground straps and the small connectors in the brake system (wear sensors and speed signal sensors) Trans shift cable , fuel filler neck , big chassis to body connector in the left rear. the washer reservoire will stay with the frame so any harness and washer lines need to be disconnected as well. there is also an evaps line in the left rear corner thats easy to forget about. Get all the body bolts out of there and set the vehicle on the ground. Move your lift arms to the body and let the air out of a couple tires so the chassis doesnt move around while your working with that.

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Old 12-12-2015, 09:07 AM
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I like to have a couple people around when I start to lift the body off the frame. They watch or operate the lift for me so I can watch and make sure nothing was forgotten. Also helps to have someone by the radiator to rock it backward to clear the body as it's leaving.
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:14 AM
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Now the radiator can be pulled off with all the rest of what I call the coolpack as an assembly. From here the engine is just a basic engine swap. I remove the exhaust manifold on the left bank and the engine mount bracket while I support the engine with the cherry picker. This way I can get all the torque converter bolts with a 3/8 impact. Also should have mentioned I like to remove the lower bell housing bolts while the whole truck is still on the lift.

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Old 12-12-2015, 09:18 AM
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You can see that the new engine is installed because the red plugs are still in place. All the fuel system I transfer after the engine is in place. It's so easy to work on when in this state and I sit on the front tires while I do all that.

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Old 12-12-2015, 09:24 AM
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Why it need a new engine?
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:27 AM
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I think that"s the half way point so everything else is just the reverse of everything we have done so far. Piece of cake for a guy like yourself. With a little luch and about 2 1/2 days it will look like that last pic again. If you do this for someone else make sure they NEVER EVER see the truck apart like this. You will be doing every squeak and rattle they ever hear again.

Hope that was fun for you guys. If you wan't to see other 5.0 work being done I have a photo stream of a cylinder head job I did with the body still on the frame.

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Old 12-12-2015, 09:31 AM
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:01 AM
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Hey Stu off topic but just curious would it be possible to put a 4.2 supercharger on a 4.4 non supercharged motor?
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:33 AM
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Just another day at the office.
Another 2 1/2 days at the office. Maybe if I was 30 again I could rip and tear in maybe 10 hours. Back then I did rear main and cross seals in about 5 hours. That was humping.

I'm sure you could do it but your going to need a lot of other shit. Like the engine harness and maybe some cooling system modification because the super charger has its own cooling system.

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Old 12-12-2015, 11:00 AM
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Hey Stu off topic but just curious would it be possible to put a 4.2 supercharger on a 4.4 non supercharged motor?
I think the pistons are different in the supercharged motor for lower compression. The cylinder heads are also different because the supercharged motor doesn't have variable camshaft profiling.
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:08 PM
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Ya jymmies right about all that I guess I was thinking about the whole engine as an assembly. But I never think about doing that. I think it would be cheaper to trade out of whatever you have and get something blown.

Turbos are great but I would rather be blown.
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metal thru out. Not really sure what let go but it was knocking like hell wouldn't have it.
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:17 PM
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I had no idea you had to remove the body to pull these engines. Jesus.
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Old 12-12-2015, 12:51 PM
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I had no idea you had to remove the body to pull these engines. Jesus.
Really not a big deal. Once the body is off its the easiest engine I've ever replaced. I feel sorry for guys who only have drive on racks and have to do it in the car. The torque converter bolts are next to impossible that way.
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Old 12-12-2015, 01:06 PM
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I would rather be blown.
Wouldn't we all, man, wouldn't we all.
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Old 12-12-2015, 01:29 PM
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Based on your time underneath these things, What heavy duty American truck frame can I slap an LR4 body onto?
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Old 12-12-2015, 01:37 PM
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Really not a big deal. Once the body is off its the easiest engine I've ever replaced. I feel sorry for guys who only have drive on racks and have to do it in the car. The torque converter bolts are next to impossible that way.
We got rid of all our drive-ons (we don't need one bc we don't have an alignment machine). I can't imagine a shop full of only those massive things.

So was this a warranty repair?
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Old 12-12-2015, 01:40 PM
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I had no idea you had to remove the body to pull these engines. Jesus.
You don't have to, but it only takes about two hours to pull the body. The worst part about pulling the body is that you have to bleed the brakes when you're done. At Land Rover Glen Cove we only have drive on lifts, so pulling the body wasn't an option.
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So was this a warranty repair?[/QUOTE]

I didn't realize there was any other kind of repair. To answer your next question....17 hours roughly. Plus anything you can hammer out for diagnosis.
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So was this a warranty repair?
I didn't realize there was any other kind of repair. To answer your next question....17 hours roughly. Plus anything you can hammer out for diagnosis.[/QUOTE]

Unless LRNA does things differently than others, I would assume a customer pay job would put more money in your pocket per hour of labor. 17 is all they give you? Stay late to make 8 indeed. Idk where they come up with times. We did a recall on the Ram curtain airbags that Chrysler paid 2.6 hours for, and my techs were doing them in 45 minutes. Then they came out with another one that required you to pull and inspect the rear axle, paid .5 for it, and it took the guys closer to an hour.
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