Now... hold on a minute...

[RBBailey]

Bombing on Monday

Rumors that a "Saudi" is under guard in hospital -- not a dark skinned person, not an Arab, not a middle easterner -- specifically a Saudi

Then we are told it is all a mistake.

Then, just today, we start seeing photos of what look like several SeALs at the marathon, near the area, looking like they are looking. As if they were quietly trying to catch someone they thought might be there.

Then, just today, the FBI says they are holding a press conference... four times, but then they never do.

Then, just today, the Saudi foreign minister flies in to D.C. and has a private talk with Obama; not on the schedule, unannounced.

And now, we hear that the Saudi we were told we were mistaken for thinking about, and probably racist too, is being released (even though he was never in custody) an is being deported at just about the same time the Saudi foreign minister is leaving Washington.

Nothing to see here, go about your business.

...oh, and while the FBI is fitting and starting to try to tell us something, and while the Saudis are flying in and out, we are told our dear leader has been under attack with an envelope. Look! What's that over there!

 

[1920SF]

You mean this meeting:

Obama talks Syria with Saudi FM
(AFP) – 4 hours ago
WASHINGTON — US President Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal Wednesday, in the latest of a string of talks with key players in the Middle East and the Gulf as he mulls policy on Syria.
Obama dropped by a meeting between Prince Saud and US National Security Adviser Tom Donilon at the White House, using a diplomatic practice designed to satisfy protocol between leaders of different political rank.
"The president and Prince Saud al-Faisal reaffirmed the strong partnership between the United States and Saudi Arabia and discussed developments in the region, including the conflict in Syria," National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said in a statement.
The prince offered condolences over the twin bombings at the finish line of the Boston marathon on Monday and Obama asked him to pass on his best wishes to Saudi King Abdullah, according to Hayden.
Saudi Arabia is among the Gulf states believed to be sending arms to rebels battling Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in a brutal civil war.
Washington has so far balked at sending arms and lethal military equipment, fearing they could end up in the hands of radical extremist groups that could eventually be turned against it or its allies.
Obama is in the middle of a string of meetings with Middle Eastern allies focusing in part on Syria.
On Tuesday, he hosted Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan at the White House and will also meet leaders of Turkey, Qatar and Jordan in coming weeks.
Secretary of State John Kerry is due to attend a meeting of the core group of the "Friends of Syria" on April 20 in Istanbul, the State Department said last week.
The group, comprising the United States, European and Arab countries opposed to Assad, held its last major meeting in Rome in February.

 

[RBBailey]

I love how that article talks to me as if I'm in kindergarten.

And how it has already been updated from the original:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal at the White House on Wednesday and discussed the conflict in Syria, a spokeswoman said.
The meeting was not on Obama's public schedule.

Winston's job was so much more difficult in the old days.

 

[KyleT]

 

[RBBailey]

yeah, everyone always says BUSH = friends with Saudi's because of OIL...

No one ever remembers the one thing there that is more valuable than oil.

 

[Eliot]

I will never understand why we got in the middle of a sectarian war, more than a millennium old.

Fuck the Sauds, and fuck Tehran.

Oil is oil, it will find it's way to market one way or another.

-

Just speculation, but my money is on a homegrown terrorist.

 

[RBBailey]

OK, I give-in on this one.... I admit I was fishing for a response from some of you on this, but it's late and I don't have time to keep up with responses in the next few days anyway. So here it is, here's what I think.

Obviously, unless something is super screwy that we are not seeing going on, the SeALs don't operate in the U.S., and they certainly aren't stupid enough to dress like these blokes did (essentially in uniform) and they certainly were not the ones leaving bombs and running away. etc... etc...

What I think was going on there is that there was some minor threat noise. The National Guard, bomb dogs, snipers, etc were operating in the area. You can see them in before photos, and several people initially mentioned them in early press conferences. Now we are told this is not true... why? Not because of some grand New World Order plot, it's simple. Keep reading.

I think the guys who are obviously working together, dressed in khaki cargoes with desert boots and black tops on, complete with electronics in hand, ear buds, backpacks, etc... I think those guys were private contractor security hacks. In fact, I think they were Blackwater based on the logos, etc.... They were there looking for threats, sniffing for nuclear materials (note the thing the one dude is holding, in the middle of the street, after the blast, that isn't a cell phone, but isn't a calculator either).

The blast happens. Now look at the photos, you can see the way they are looking, their demeanor, etc,... they want to help. They are probably former military, they are trained to help. But they know they should back away and disappear. In fact, one of the photos shows two of them holding their ears as if getting radio traffic -- getting orders to leave the area?

This is not a big deal. Probably the type of thing that happens more than we know. And frankly, I would much rather have this going on for security, than to actually lose more rights in the name of security.

What is a big deal is that I do think the administration is now covering up the fact that they did have some small bit of a threat, they did have some contingency in the crowd looking for said threat, and they did, essentially, fail. So they are covering it up to not look bad. If you know nothing about Obama, know this: That he cares very much about appearances. Study the man, you will see what I mean. I would not put it past this administration to cover this up for the simple fact that they do not want to look like a terrorist attack happened on their watch. No big conspiracy, simple ego.

But, take it to the next level, I do think it may be a distinct possibility that it really is something connected with the Saudi's. And as I said above, don't forget that it isn't about stability of oil prices, it's about who is holding who's leash in Saudi Arabia -- look to Mecca.

I don't think my theory is very far fetched at all. In fact, if you disagree with me, I bet you are one of those people who thinks Bush went into Iraq based on made-up intel and hidden agendas... right? And remember LBJ and the Gulf of Tonkin? What about White Water? You believe Reagan was lying about Iran/Contra, don't you? So why would it be so difficult to understand my theory?

 

[1920SF]

Just speculation, but my money is on a homegrown terrorist.

Wow, mark it down, we agree on something contentious regarding national security. The moons and the planets must be aligned indeed.

Regarding the overarching conspiracy theory angle; I don't buy it. It's like no jews being killed during 9/11 or a myriad of other shoe-strung together ideas that provide the desired answer to a biased question.

 

[brian4d]

OK, I give-in on this one.... I admit I was fishing for a response from some of you on this, but it's late and I don't have time to keep up with responses in the next few days anyway. So here it is, here's what I think.

Obviously, unless something is super screwy that we are not seeing going on, the SeALs don't operate in the U.S., and they certainly aren't stupid enough to dress like these blokes did (essentially in uniform) and they certainly were not the ones leaving bombs and running away. etc... etc...

What I think was going on there is that there was some minor threat noise. The National Guard, bomb dogs, snipers, etc were operating in the area. You can see them in before photos, and several people initially mentioned them in early press conferences. Now we are told this is not true... why? Not because of some grand New World Order plot, it's simple. Keep reading.

I think the guys who are obviously working together, dressed in khaki cargoes with desert boots and black tops on, complete with electronics in hand, ear buds, backpacks, etc... I think those guys were private contractor security hacks. In fact, I think they were Blackwater based on the logos, etc.... They were there looking for threats, sniffing for nuclear materials (note the thing the one dude is holding, in the middle of the street, after the blast, that isn't a cell phone, but isn't a calculator either).

The blast happens. Now look at the photos, you can see the way they are looking, their demeanor, etc,... they want to help. They are probably former military, they are trained to help. But they know they should back away and disappear. In fact, one of the photos shows two of them holding their ears as if getting radio traffic -- getting orders to leave the area?

This is not a big deal. Probably the type of thing that happens more than we know. And frankly, I would much rather have this going on for security, than to actually lose more rights in the name of security.

What is a big deal is that I do think the administration is now covering up the fact that they did have some small bit of a threat, they did have some contingency in the crowd looking for said threat, and they did, essentially, fail. So they are covering it up to not look bad. If you know nothing about Obama, know this: That he cares very much about appearances. Study the man, you will see what I mean. I would not put it past this administration to cover this up for the simple fact that they do not want to look like a terrorist attack happened on their watch. No big conspiracy, simple ego.

But, take it to the next level, I do think it may be a distinct possibility that it really is something connected with the Saudi's. And as I said above, don't forget that it isn't about stability of oil prices, it's about who is holding who's leash in Saudi Arabia -- look to Mecca.

I don't think my theory is very far fetched at all. In fact, if you disagree with me, I bet you are one of those people who thinks Bush went into Iraq based on made-up intel and hidden agendas... right? And remember LBJ and the Gulf of Tonkin? What about White Water? You believe Reagan was lying about Iran/Contra, don't you? So why would it be so difficult to understand my theory?

You nailed it. Obama doesn't want any acts or Terror on his watch. Not with Ambassador Stephens and not now. I will take it a step farther. With the budget talks going on now and the MASSIVE amounts of money that's going into all these government departments (FBI, DHLS, ATF, CIA, DEA) a terror attack cannot happen on his watch, if it does it just proves that fact that no amount of money or government departments can help fully protect American lives, this kind of information does not need to get out and must be contained. The belief that the government is not the the great protector of domestic threats for the American people.

 

[DiscoPhoto]

All I know is that I'm going to end that Alex Jones douche if this turns into another 9/11-Sandy Hook-Aurora situation, f*cking conspiracist idiots.

 

[nosivad_bor]

Who cares? I don't see any of this effecting me. Let them play their games.

 

[singingcamel]

Bombing on Monday

Rumors that a "Saudi" is under guard in hospital -- not a dark skinned person, not an Arab, not a middle easterner -- specifically a Saudi

Then we are told it is all a mistake.

Then, just today, we start seeing photos of what look like several SeALs at the marathon, near the area, looking like they are looking. As if they were quietly trying to catch someone they thought might be there.

Then, just today, the FBI says they are holding a press conference... four times, but then they never do.

Then, just today, the Saudi foreign minister flies in to D.C. and has a private talk with Obama; not on the schedule, unannounced.

And now, we hear that the Saudi we were told we were mistaken for thinking about, and probably racist too, is being released (even though he was never in custody) an is being deported at just about the same time the Saudi foreign minister is leaving Washington.

Nothing to see here, go about your business.

...oh, and while the FBI is fitting and starting to try to tell us something, and while the Saudis are flying in and out, we are told our dear leader has been under attack with an envelope. Look! What's that over there!

My thoughts exactly !

 

[hilltoppersx]

http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/04/18...ed-grounds-connected-to-terrorist-activities/

 

[knewsom]

I think they guys you're calling SeALS are the guys who planed the bomb. Why? I don't know. But that's what the pictures suggest. They may just be wannabes.

 

[RBBailey]

I think they guys you're calling SeALS are the guys who planed the bomb. Why? I don't know. But that's what the pictures suggest. They may just be wannabes.

Well, anything is up in the air. But there are a few problems with that theory.

First, they stand out. The outfits are actually as good as uniforms. They are obviously there for a reason. Maybe they are some militia group, that's the only "they did it" option I could imagine. But... whatever you think of the various militia groups... why bomb the Boston Marathon? -- they killed ordinary Americans. That goes against their entire set of principles. Of course, there are exceptions.

If it were a militia group, I think there would have been a big red flag going up in the security elements of the government because of how closely those groups are being watched. And if a militia group had planted a bomb, I would think it would not be in a crowd of sports spectators, it would have been at a Post Office, a National Guard Armory, a local FBI station, something like that.

I need to clarify what was meant by the statement, but I think someone I know actually recognized one of the high speed dudes in the photos as being an ex SeAL. This would mean he is probably a contractor.

I'm sticking to my idea that it is either one idiot crazy home-grown, or the Saudi connection. And I think these screaming-tactical dudes are private contractors who were searching for dirty bomb materials and maybe even had some intel they were acting on.

 

[knewsom]

Well, anything is up in the air. But there are a few problems with that theory.

First, they stand out. The outfits are actually as good as uniforms. They are obviously there for a reason. Maybe they are some militia group, that's the only "they did it" option I could imagine. But... whatever you think of the various militia groups... why bomb the Boston Marathon? -- they killed ordinary Americans. That goes against their entire set of principles. Of course, there are exceptions.

If it were a militia group, I think there would have been a big red flag going up in the security elements of the government because of how closely those groups are being watched. And if a militia group had planted a bomb, I would think it would not be in a crowd of sports spectators, it would have been at a Post Office, a National Guard Armory, a local FBI station, something like that.

I need to clarify what was meant by the statement, but I think someone I know actually recognized one of the high speed dudes in the photos as being an ex SeAL. This would mean he is probably a contractor.

I'm sticking to my idea that it is either one idiot crazy home-grown, or the Saudi connection. And I think these screaming-tactical dudes are private contractors who were searching for dirty bomb materials and maybe even had some intel they were acting on.

Then why were they carrying backpacks that matched the one that blew up? ...and by carrying, I mean carrying for awhile and then didnt' have them on anymore.

They also had The Craft hats on (Chris Kyle's group). What if there's more going on here than you're capable of imagining?

 

[SGaynor]

Wow...

No wonder the store was out of tin foil. Now I know where it all went.

 

[RBBailey]

I'm capable of imagining a lot, Chris, I'm controlling my imagination....

You bring up a good point, except...

In this photo, the guy has his backpack on, after the bombing, and he is holding something out in front of him:
http://static.infowars.com/2013/04/i/general/finishline.jpg

These guys both have their backpacks, and it looks like this was taken after the bombing as well:
http://seeker401.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/jcgaf8y.jpg

In this one you can see that two of the three still have backpacks:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/34997_10151436653076630_1957417063_n.jpg

And the backpack that is fingered in both the FBI photos and in the one with the shredded pack, don't match the all black packs these guys are wearing.

I appreciate you much you want to nail Obama for sending SpecOps in to the public to cause mayhem, but I think it is merely a cover-up of the idea that they thought there might have been a threat, they had people there looking, and they are not admitting that they were caught off guard.

 

[ChrismonDA]

All I know is that I'm going to end that Alex Jones douche if this turns into another 9/11-Sandy Hook-Aurora situation, f*cking conspiracist idiots.

I know I have never heard someone that loves the sound of their own voice as this imbecile.

 

[varova87]

living outside the US puts me a little behind on the latest news, but I saw this pop up on Facebook today. Any thoughts on what he is claiming to know?

http://www.befirstinmedia.com/beck-gives-obama-till-monday-to-admit-boston-bombing-was-inside-job/