"Occupy" Protests

quick128

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What do you guys think? I'm watching The Today Show and these people piss me off. They look like they are all under 25 year old college students. I know the economy sucks and jobs are hard to find, but sitting around in filth in a New York City Park doesn't seem to be the way to solve the problem. What also disturbs me is that celebrities and politicians keep showing up to support them. The celebs just want press time and the politicians are looking for votes. These movements are spreading form the "big" cities. There are about 50 people occupying the Intelos wireless pavilion in Charlottesville. They are scared of the rain so they seek shelter under a cover with the name of a big corporation on it. Idiots...
 
I got invited to an "Occupy" protest yesterday by a guy openly packing heat in a head shop...

I don't think he fully understands the movement, or the fact that people like me might be trying to be one of the 1% club.

I remember when head shops were record stores, not tattoo supply shops, fake marijuana shops (I thought that stuff was illegal too???), dirty videos and sex toys shops. I must be getting old, given how uncomfortable I was in there.
 

mgreenspan

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H..mm the alternative being just leaving the statis quo and doing nothing?

What decade caused the most change for the good the 60s or the 80s

Just my $.02

Why aren't they protesting the politicians? Corporate greed is what they're complaining about... I'm annoyed with their individual greed. Give me things for free. Wah wah wah. Move to where jobs are like every other person in the world looking to make their life better instead of suckling at the teet of the gov't.
 
mgreenspan said:
Why aren't they protesting the politicians? Corporate greed is what they're complaining about... I'm annoyed with their individual greed. Give me things for free. Wah wah wah. Move to where jobs are like every other person in the world looking to make their life better instead of suckling at the teet of the gov't.

How many of our elected federal reps are not worth more than a million dollars? I don't think very many, if any at all.

So, those of us who aren't feeling quite so disenfranchised are looking to the 1% as our salvation, the occupiers are not but don't have an alternative, and the best part, Nancy Pelosi (reportedly worth $35 million) supports them!
 

Mike_Rupp

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I went down to 4th & Pine to see what was going on locally. There were about 20 protestors and about 15 reporters.

What I don't understand is that cops can clean out parks with people sleeping in them, yet somehow these people are allowed to sleep wherever they want since they are exercising their first amendment rights. These people piss and shit all over the place and yet somehow our local politicians are too fucking chicken shit to arrest them?
 
Mike_Rupp said:
These people piss and shit all over the place and yet somehow our local politicians are too fucking chicken shit to arrest them?

It's more closely regulated on the Rubicon than in our cities!

The "occupy Fort Wayne" folks are holding seminars in expectation of "police brutality" tomorrow when they try to protest on the green space in front of one of the office buildings in Fort Wayne-an office building where I used to work and the "security" guys would give you a hard time for eating lunch on the park benches.
 

knewsom

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People have been arrested in the HUNDREDS, guys. Civil liberties are being violated. People are being beaten down for protesting. That's simply not ok, whether you agree with the protestors or not.

...which, coincidentally, 58% of the country does. ...Gov. Buddy Roemer included.

People begged their liege lords for bread in the dark ages too. Hoped they would be their "salvation". I'm not ok with Plutocracy, and personally, I want to see corporations held accountable for their fuckups instead of bailed out and sent on their merry way.
 

nosivad_bor

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quick128 said:
What do you guys think? I'm watching The Today Show and these people piss me off. They look like they are all under 25 year old college students. I know the economy sucks and jobs are hard to find, but sitting around in filth in a New York City Park doesn't seem to be the way to solve the problem. What also disturbs me is that celebrities and politicians keep showing up to support them. The celebs just want press time and the politicians are looking for votes. These movements are spreading form the "big" cities. There are about 50 people occupying the Intelos wireless pavilion in Charlottesville. They are scared of the rain so they seek shelter under a cover with the name of a big corporation on it. Idiots...


It may not be the way to solve the problem, but the point is to get people talking about solving it. In that point they are having some success.

It doesn't matter if you think they are wasting their time, it only maters to an individual if they feel like what they are doing is the right thing at the right time. Reality is personal.

I support any group who wants to speak out about their cause, as long as they are not in my back yard :)
 

GYM

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Mike_Rupp said:
I went down to 4th & Pine to see what was going on locally. There were about 20 protestors and about 15 reporters.

What I don't understand is that cops can clean out parks with people sleeping in them, yet somehow these people are allowed to sleep wherever they want since they are exercising their first amendment rights. These people piss and shit all over the place and yet somehow our local politicians are too fucking chicken shit to arrest them?

So did I. There were more people waiting for the bus then there were protesters. 4th & Pine is sort of a shithole anyway. Really doesn't look that different then normal, other than slightly more stink and cardboard sign litter.
 

chris snell

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Give me a break, Kris. What about the civil liberties of the people that live and work around the protests? Aren't they entitled to go about their lives without being accosted by protestors? I was mostly lukewarm about the protests until I read this article. Go figure, a liberal NY Times article convinced me that these people are society's deadweight:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/08/nyregion/occupy-wall-street-begins-to-chafe-its-neighbors.html?hpw

Politically, I'm moderate. You don't see me in most of these political threads and with good reason. I'm of the "legalize drugs and let the gays marry and serve in the military" bent, but I've voted Republican in four of the last five elections. I have to tell you, I've been reading the "I am the 53%" blogs and I identify with these people. Not all of them, but a lot of them. I am a self-taught systems engineer and paid for my college with student loans, which I paid off entirely by myself after college. I've busted my ass since I was 15 and I've done well for myself. When I was the age of most of these protestors, I wasn't hanging out in parks and protesting, I was slaving my ass away in front of a terminal for 14 hours a day. I missed out on my entire twenty-something years because all I did was work. Remember December 31, 1999? I was sitting in front of a terminal in my office at work.

My point is, I have had it with these protestors. They are trashing these parks and the surrounding businesses, they are harassing and intimidating the people who live and work in the area, and most importantly, they don't have a coherent protest. WHAT ARE THEY PROTESTING? Is it....corporations...the wars...rich people...lack of jobs for people with waist-length dreadlocks...WHAT? I don't get it.
 

Blue

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This Occupy Wall Street shit is great stuff. Really brings the absolute dregs of society out of the woodwork so you can see who they really are.

My wife and I are going to be Wall Street Occupiers for Halloween. We're going to dress up like bums, rub burnt cork all over us so that we appear to be dirty, and ask for handouts. Anyone know where I can score some Suburu t-shirts so we really look the part?
 

knewsom

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chris snell said:
Give me a break, Kris. What about the civil liberties of the people that live and work around the protests? Aren't they entitled to go about their lives without being accosted by protestors? I was mostly lukewarm about the protests until I read this article. Go figure, a liberal NY Times article convinced me that these people are society's deadweight:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/08/nyregion/occupy-wall-street-begins-to-chafe-its-neighbors.html?hpw

Politically, I'm moderate. You don't see me in most of these political threads and with good reason. I'm of the "legalize drugs and let the gays marry and serve in the military" bent, but I've voted Republican in four of the last five elections. I have to tell you, I've been reading the "I am the 53%" blogs and I identify with these people. Not all of them, but a lot of them. I am a self-taught systems engineer and paid for my college with student loans, which I paid off entirely by myself after college. I've busted my ass since I was 15 and I've done well for myself. When I was the age of most of these protestors, I wasn't hanging out in parks and protesting, I was slaving my ass away in front of a terminal for 14 hours a day. I missed out on my entire twenty-something years because all I did was work. Remember December 31, 1999? I was sitting in front of a terminal in my office at work.

My point is, I have had it with these protestors. They are trashing these parks and the surrounding businesses, they are harassing and intimidating the people who live and work in the area, and most importantly, they don't have a coherent protest. WHAT ARE THEY PROTESTING? Is it....corporations...the wars...rich people...lack of jobs for people with waist-length dreadlocks...WHAT? I don't get it.

Oh I hear ya - in fact, I'm with ya about 95%. Of course I'm not ok with people pissing and shitting in the streets and intimidating local businesses and people who live there, or with them trashing the parks. It's the right to freedom of assembly that I AM ok with and am watching that be taken away because the protestors are "inconvenient" is infuriating to me.

Part of me does think that the reason it's these kids out there protesting instead of guys like us is that we're too busy taking care of our families, and busting our asses trying to make a living.

As for their lack of focus, I think this is just an outpouring of rage with the status quo in general, much like the Tea Party's, except coming from a bit different of a perspective.
 

chris snell

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Blue said:
My wife and I are going to be Wall Street Occupiers for Halloween. We're going to dress up like bums, rub burnt cork all over us so that we appear to be dirty, and ask for handouts. Anyone know where I can score some Suburu t-shirts so we really look the part?

Nah, bro. This is what you want:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHISH-LOGO-...main_0&var=&hash=item61cc52e2a0#ht_793wt_1057

...or maybe this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/H509-LOAD-B...575259?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&hash=item43aa37899b
 

Blue

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knewsom, go sit in the middle of the highway during rush hour, dream up some bullshit "1st Amendment Free Speech" bullshit, and see how soon your civil liberties are violated.