This is what is wrong with America

quick128 · Nov 15, 2011

While I agree with the idea of free speech, this professor needs to be taken behind a building and beaten with a rubber hose. I think the university should fire his ass too rather than say they respect his views. How can people have this twisted view of how things are? Knewsom is probably facebook friends with the guy...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/14/massachusetts-law-professor-calls-care-packages-for-us-troops-shameful/?test=latestnews

Ballah06 · Nov 15, 2011

So this douche does not support our nation's servicemembers and has a problem with a flag being hung in places...? How about we geographically excommunicate this low life to say, some third-world shithole and have him voice his opinion there?
While I am all for freedom of speech, etc., I have a big problem with clearly anti-patriotic statments, especially ones directed toward the members of our military.

atriot:

brushogger · Nov 15, 2011

tenure [ˈtɛnjʊə ˈtɛnjə] n the possession or holding of an office or position
(Social Science / Education) the right to permanent employment until retirement, esp for
teachers, lecturers, etc.

This is part of the problem. In what other occupation does a person have this "right" to say or do things that discredit or damage the reputation of their employer? Anyplace else, using the employer as a soap box and using the employer's resources for things like this will get you canned. I have little respect for academia anymore. In the last 40 years, too many in high positions have little or no real world experience. I believe that a professor should have at least 10 years of field experience (ie: employment in the private sector, directly related to his field of study), to be considered for a position. I guess that would be considered consorting with the masses, and contaminate the purity of those hallowed halls of academia. I've heard all the arguments regarding the sanctity of independent thought in education, and agree with it. I also agree that no matter what the arena, dumb asses should reap what they sow.

Big Papa · Nov 15, 2011

Ship his ass off to Afghanistan, and have him teach over there. I promise he'll change his views real quick.

honda50r · Nov 15, 2011

Libertarianism is looking more and more attractive. I detest welfare

antichrist · Nov 15, 2011

I certainly don't agree with his sentiments, but I'm confused by people who claim to respect free speech yet want to beat someone who says something they don't agree with.
Free speech is worthless until someone says something abhorrent. That's when it counts.

GYM · Nov 15, 2011

antichrist said:
I certainly don't agree with his sentiments, but I'm confused by people who claim to respect free speech yet want to beat someone who says something they don't agree with.
Free speech is worthless until someone says something abhorrent. That's when it counts.

OK, but aren't those people you refer to simply exercising their right to free speech as well?

Ballah06 · Nov 15, 2011

GYM said:
OK, but aren't those people you refer to simply exercising their right to free speech as well?

x2. When an individual exercising his free speech right says something that goes totally against the grain of the society, as in this case, criticism of his or her initial opinion is warranted IMO. What is the point of his statement about the troops? Did he really think it was going to gain mass support?

LRflip · Nov 15, 2011

Michael Avery, Professor of Law, BA, LLB, Yale University; attended University of Moscow, U.S.S.R. 1968-1969.

Figures....

Send this guy a good old fashioned letter:

Prof. Michael Avery
Suffolk University Law School
120 Tremont Street
Boston, MA 02108-4977

Email: mavery@suffolk.edu
Im not 100% on the email but its got to be similar to the email addresses of other faculty.

nosivad_bor · Nov 15, 2011

Actually this is what is right about America.

antichrist · Nov 15, 2011

GYM said:
OK, but aren't those people you refer to simply exercising their right to free speech as well?

If you mean the criticism of it, yes. Committing or advocating violence against someone who says things you don't like, I'm pretty sure, isn't protected by the constitution.

mgreenspan · Nov 15, 2011

Discuss this nugget. http://www.infowars.com/nearly-a-third-of-occupy-protesters-advocate-violence/

antichrist · Nov 15, 2011

mgreenspan said:
Discuss this nugget. http://www.infowars.com/nearly-a-third-of-occupy-protesters-advocate-violence/

Meh.
More than 50% of Americans support violence to advance their agenda. They just support it in the form of government sanctioned violence. Just not many people are willing to admit that.

I'm not sure what that article has to do with the professor though.

knewsom · Nov 15, 2011

antichrist said:
I certainly don't agree with his sentiments, but I'm confused by people who claim to respect free speech yet want to beat someone who says something they don't agree with.
Free speech is worthless until someone says something abhorrent. That's when it counts.

x2.

Furthermore, what's the point of being pro-critical thinking, if you don't expose students to ideas to be critical of? Whackos like this dude are part of the college experiment. If he "indoctrinates" anyone, they're either morons or were going to end up there anyways.

Blue · Nov 15, 2011

knewsom said:
x2.

Furthermore, what's the point of being pro-critical thinking, if you don't expose students to ideas to be critical of? Whackos like this dude are part of the college experiment. If he "indoctrinates" anyone, they're either morons or were going to end up there anyways.

That's a pretty slippery slope there, knewsom. A lot of college students are simply young & impressionable kids and they can be steered one way or another because they are under the impression that the profs are there to actually teach them something. I wouldn't necessarily label these sheltered souls as morons or "born liberals".

Oh, and Roberto Davison hit the mark on this one......this prof is perfectly entitled to his opinion. As the saying goes, opinions are like assholes....

antichrist · Nov 15, 2011

Keep in mind the professor made the statements in an email to other faculty, not to students. So, as far as anyone knows, he's not trying to convince students of his beliefs.

kennith · Nov 15, 2011

This is my favorite part:

"Clearly it's a patriotic school; we have a huge American flag up in the atrium."

A student may have said it only in passing, but this level of observation and conclusion is dangerous.

Cheers,

Kennith

nosivad_bor · Nov 15, 2011

kennith said:
This is my favorite part:

"Clearly it's a patriotic school; we have a huge American flag up in the atrium."

A student may have said it only in passing, but this level of observation and conclusion is dangerous.

Cheers,

Kennith

Depends on what you consider dangerous. I'd say it's "life as usual"

antichrist · Nov 15, 2011

kennith said:
This is my favorite part:

"Clearly it's a patriotic school; we have a huge American flag up in the atrium."

Speaking of indoctrinated youth....

kennith · Nov 15, 2011

nosivad_bor said:
Depends on what you consider dangerous. I'd say it's "life as usual"

The most dangerous thing in the world is a human that's incapable of using a brain properly.

Sadly, most humans suffer that issue.

Cheers,

Kennith

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