Atlantic British
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I've seen others ask for it on your threads. I've already "lifted" it with my Foxwell.
The SYA kit is not a lift kit. You fucking know that. It's an insurance kit. It keeps your tires off the fenders at bump stops and extends the air strut range of motion. The sensors and calibration determine the "lift", not struts.
It also introduces new unnecessary problems because 2.5" inches is too fucking much. It introduces the possibility of overextending the CV joints, so now you've got this dumb ass retention strap to install that wouldn't be necessary on a 1" kit. Then there's people where it fucks up their access height mode.
All I want is to be kept off the fenders on 32s, especially with chains, and I don't need to extend my air stuts by 2.5" to do it. That's worth the "cost".
The SYA kit is not a lift kit. You fucking know that. It's an insurance kit. It keeps your tires off the fenders at bump stops and extends the air strut range of motion. The sensors and calibration determine the "lift", not struts.
It also introduces new unnecessary problems because 2.5" inches is too fucking much. It introduces the possibility of overextending the CV joints, so now you've got this dumb ass retention strap to install that wouldn't be necessary on a 1" kit. Then there's people where it fucks up their access height mode.
All I want is to be kept off the fenders on 32s, especially with chains, and I don't need to extend my air stuts by 2.5" to do it. That's worth the "cost".
Bill,
for LR3/4, 1-1.5" lift is an "inflection point" between benign and radical changes in most of the truck (more or less like 2.5-3" for a D1). There are hundreds LR3/4/RRS on the road with taller lift and 33"+ tires that are going to be waiting for a tow truck at any malfunction of air suspension (and that keep the tire industry healthy by wearing tires to naught every 15kmi).
LR (and most others') traction control does NOT supply power to the wheel that is spinning. It applies brakes to it, so the wheel on the other side of the diff gets some power.
Exactly. I'm aware of the risk and simply have no interest in getting towed from remote locations/snow when the air suspension takes an inevitable shit. I'm also not interested in running 33+ tires on my dd necessitating 2.5" strut extensions and other mods. Just put together a simpler, cheaper kit for those with slightly than stock larger tires who actually care about the consequences.
DII wheeling with ETC. Wheeling. Not greenlaning or overlanding.
Notice what the tire that's in the air is doing in this pic. It's spinning.... Look at the tire that's making contact. It's not moving.
(Again, as I said in a previous post, I'm not knocking LR ETC. I'm a Land Rover fan. And ETC is great. But in the context of the previous discussion about building an off-road truck, ETC is no substitute for locking differentials, and we shouldn't give newcomers or lurkers the impression that it is.)
Notice what the tire that's in the air is doing in this pic. It's spinning.... Look at the tire that's making contact. It's not moving.
(Again, as I said in a previous post, I'm not knocking LR ETC. I'm a Land Rover fan. And ETC is great. But in the context of the previous discussion about building an off-road truck, ETC is no substitute for locking differentials, and we shouldn't give newcomers or lurkers the impression that it is.)
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Let's put it this way.
On a high-articulation, loose, steep hillclimb an LR3/4 with ETC will outdrive a D1 with ARBs front and back. D2 videos mean nothing.
By the out-of-the-box performance, off-road, these trucks are simply better.
It doesn't mean LR3/4 is better overall; on a long trip to the boonies I'll take a D1 over LR4 any day. Serviceability will eventually outweigh performance.
I've found with the ETC on my 2004 D2 that there is a bit of spin but then the ETC kicks in and the grounded wheel gets the traction. In fact, I believe that there has to be some spin to kick ETC into action. If the D2 wheel in that photograph was just constantly spinning then this is contrary to my experience with ETC.
