04 D2 just rebuilt??

TexasD90

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My dad just had his motor rebuilt in his 04 D2. Got it back last night. It’s clattering, sounds like the lifters?? And the SRS light came on today. Reputable shop in Fort Worth did the rebuild. He says the motor needs to “break in”. Does this sound right?
 

boxster

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My dad just had his motor rebuilt in his 04 D2. Got it back last night. It’s clattering, sounds like the lifters?? And the SRS light came on today. Reputable shop in Fort Worth did the rebuild. He says the motor needs to “break in”. Does this sound right?
Take it back it shouldn’t be making any noise and they should supply you a loaner for the inconvenience you probably paid a lot for the rebuild. Never accept that it needs break in the shop should keep it until a the bugs are fixed! Good luck
 

robertf

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if they didnt do the camshaft break in and it was driven normally then it'll need new cam and lifters.

I found a folded up towel under the intake manifold gasket in an engine serviced by a reputable shop in FW.
 
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special ed

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if they didnt do the camshaft break in and it was driven normally then it'll need new cam and lifters.

I found a folded up towel under the intake manifold gasket in an engine serviced by a reputable shop in FW.
i once thought i left my screwdriver in the lifter valley of an engine i did heads on. I had already run the car a few times and was putting tools away. Searched everywhere for it and no luck, stressing out bigtime because i had last used it to pull the valley pan off. I gave up and went home. Next day i threw a box away and found it under the box 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
 

boxster

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I worked for FEDEX Vehicle Maintenance on Cummins engines, several delivery vans were towed in because of diesel fuel supply problems. At first fuel filter no change, didn’t run, then check fuel pressure none. Long story short the drivers were sabotaging the fuel tanks with blue paper towels when they would fill up at the local fuel station. The towels would sink in tank get sucked up by the lift pump and restrict the fuel delivery. Disconnected the fuel line where it connects to lift pump and behold blue paper towels.
 

Grum.man

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It's most likely a bad lifter. The new lifters are crap. After rebuilding mine with all new lifters and pre bleeding them before installation I still have one ticking.
 
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best4x4

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I totally agree aftermarket part quality has truly gone downhill. Eurospare lifters which came in those plastic tubes all nicely oiled vs Britparts soaked paper wrapped lifters were way better, but the last batch I used I wasn't impressed with. Don't even get me started on the AllMakes4x4 Timing Chain gear quality!!!
 

Grum.man

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I totally agree aftermarket part quality has truly gone downhill. Eurospare lifters which came in those plastic tubes all nicely oiled vs Britparts soaked paper wrapped lifters were way better, but the last batch I used I wasn't impressed with. Don't even get me started on the AllMakes4x4 Timing Chain gear quality!!!
I got the lifters in the tube and still have one that's bad. There is a youtube channel where a guy had the same issue after rebuilding his engine which ended up being a bad new lifter as well.
 
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4Runner

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The lack of quality is really sucking the fun out of it these days. It’s one thing if your buying cheap but it’s frustrating when your trying to buy better and it still is crap.
 
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kris812

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And here I have an OEM lifter ticking like hell on start-up for 1-2 seconds making me grind me teeth.. Thinking of swapping Cam and lifters but geeze, can't find any parts "worthy of my time" doing the work.. Should I just run this cam and lifter until it doesn't move? It's already a tank slow in traffic and 10mpg
 

JohnB

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It's been a lottery ticket with cams and lifters for a decade. Doubt most indy shops have any idea about proper break in or even read the instructions on rave.
 
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4Runner

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It’s been my impression that Kent and Piper cams are still what you would expect them to be. Does anyone have first hand knowledge? I suspect that when I look at my new cam less than 10k it’s going to have one lobe that’s not like the others despite a very proper old school break in. Thanks in advance.
 

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Texas all I have to say is I hope you get it worked out I had similar situation years agao witj a 03 shop said "yeah we do work on those all the time 6 months later i recieved my truck and cliter clatrr after a day of running then 2 months waiting on a fix I told them I coming to get my truck and my money. After aquiring the goods I ended up at a retired dealer mechanic tonput it back together and said the tards had put a liffyer in incorrectly I didnt know that was possible. Long story short still ended up with blow by ... old saying goes..
"You cant pay enough to get something done right but you sure can pay enough to have it %%%%ed up.....


Ride dirty cause we can ......
 

Matt Kendrick

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Had the same issue on my rebuilt/tophatted '03. Took a while (month or two maybe) to rear its ugly head, but it did, and it was broken-in properly. Lifter shit the bed. Stuck. Flattened the cam lobe, material in oil, etc....luckily caught in time so wasn't catastrophic. Replaced cam, gear, lifters. The aftermarket parts quality out here really is shit right now.
 
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TexasD90

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Follow up question. The shop took the truck back. At this point he has agreed it’s the lifters. Now he’s saying he’s installed 3 sets of lifters from British Rovers, and the truck still ticks. Could they have done irreparable damage while driving it 30 miles to deliver the truck the first time?
 

4Runner

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Or it’s something else. Worn cam lobe, sticky valve that’s not seating properly. I would measure the cam lobes at this point. Then check the head.
 

special ed

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Follow up question. The shop took the truck back. At this point he has agreed it’s the lifters. Now he’s saying he’s installed 3 sets of lifters from British Rovers, and the truck still ticks. Could they have done irreparable damage while driving it 30 miles to deliver the truck the first time?
Short answer is yes, absolutely. If its a lifter then you could have damaged the cam and there will be no way to tell even when its apart. To do it right replace the cam and lifters as a set, get something other than Crower like a kent or piper cam, Get lifters from the same supplier and get good quality ones. If you want to just replace lifters alone go to topline/johnson lifters. they are still quality US made and top quality.

On a new cam the most important thing is break in and if a lifter is not making full tension contact during this time then it can affect the cam. Its a gamble and if it were my car i would try a set of lifters alone first. That said you will need to be watchfull of the camshaft and make sure it breaks in properly for a couple thousand miles. If it makes it 2000 miles you will be fine.
 

TexasD90

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Thankfully, the shop is standing behind it so far. Bad news is they’ve been at it for months. I’m 800 miles away trying to help come up with a solution. Than oh z for the input, it’s greatly appreciated!