4HP22/24

Greg_M

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Liking the idea of the 24's larger torque converter behind a 4.6, has anyone done the conversion of a 4HP22 to a 24 front end? The Ashcroft web site quotes a 15mm difference in length. Is this accomodated by moving the engine forward? (Can't help thinking this would make it easier to lift heads over studs and reach those bloody O2 sensor plugs). Anything else to consider?
 
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outono

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Pretty sure you'd need to adjust the prop shafts. The thread below discusses how another guy did it with a 4HP24E

Firstly, the correct/matching flexplate/flywheel assy must be used, and the overall trans is 15mm longer which drives a few minor issues.
Shifter cable could re-used as-is. Just needed a bit of an adjustment.
Transfer case mounts needed to be modified both sides to shift rearwards in the vehicle.
Trans to transfer case pencil brace needed to be extended. Dipstick tube bracket reprofiled to meet the bellhousing fixing point.
Output shaft of the trans needed to be shortened by 4cm, and the shaft redrilled and tapped (to accept the trans to transfer case adaptor shaft and fixing bolt). The circlip and bearing collar also had to be removed (behind the park pawl).
P38 XYZ switch used for neutral start (inhibit) and gear-sensing for the CompuShift.
Oil cooler lines needed to be modified (the trans-end is a different size and type fitting). I cut off the P38 ends and brazed them into my D1 lines.
All of the above was no great drama. It just chewed up a bit more time as I had access to plasma-cutters, welders, oxy, cutting and grinding tools and the basics you have in a proper mechanics workshop.

I will need to shorten the rear prop shaft by 15mm - I've estimated there is juuuuust enough plunge left (probably?) but it's pretty marginal and squashes the rubber boot a bit currently.
I have ordered a 15mm front prop-shaft spacer to get the front shaft back to the correct length.
I will wire my existing reverse light circuit into the Compushift dedicated output (I have no reverse lights currently).
I will wire my speedometer into the Compushift TOSS output (my speedo/odo were always inaccurate due to tyres, etc. and I can get a perfect signal out of the Compushift). This one I don't have to do, but why not?
 
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Greg_M

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The thread below discusses how another guy did it with a 4HP24E
Thanks for that link. It's not clear to me why someone would choose to move the trans back rather than the engine forward. But I haven't done it so maybe I'm just ignorant at this point. I wouldn't be interested in an electronic transmission either so mating the 24 front end to the 22 is more appealing to me than a 4HP24E swap.