bfg m/t vs goodyear mt/r

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TNdisco

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I am going to get some 235/85 tires and was wondering which you think is better bfg m/t or goodyear mt/r. I will be doing trails and mud but the tires will be used mainly on road. Which is better in the mud? also who sells them for the lowest prices (i saw 1010tires.com had some low prices for the bfgs)? I thought about the interco trxus but have heard problems about sidewall strength, tread wear and tire balancing. Also, are the dunlop radial mud rovers any good (they're cheap). I know this is probably in the archive but they aren't available.
 

peter

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go with the mt/r's. had the bfg's and like the mt/r's better, because they make less noise on the highway and have better traction in the snow, also go with 265/75's. the 235/85's look goofy on the disco.
 
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discoverover

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The BFG mt's are probably better in the mud because the mt/r is more of a compromise tire which is better on road and rocky terrain. When I bought tires I chose the Maxxis buckshot mudder because they make a 6ply 245/75. They seem to have slightly smaller gaps between the inner lugs compared with traditional mud terrains, and have done well for me on the road as a result. Not much more noise than the original michelins. The price is between the dunlops and the BFGs. I think they are worth looking at.
Do you have 4.11 diff gears? Even my 30.5" tires made a big difference in torque. Second gear isn't very usable from rolling starts around town. I plan to have some 4.11 ring and pinions added soon, but it may be less a problem if you have an auto trans. Dave
 

bri

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I have run older Michelin, Goodyear, BFG MT, BFG AT (present road tire) and Trxus MT (present offroad).

In general the BFG tires have done me much better than anything else. ATs are an excellent choice, but will not do well in mud. The BFG MT is a kick ass tire and performs well in mud and can do better on road if you sipe them.

You did not mention what vehicle BTW.

Personally I like the 235/85 they do well and do not compromise turnng radius (at least I am talking D1 here).

Brian
 
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flippedrover

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I have the Dunlops and have had no problems with them. They are not very loud on road. Granted I have them on a 90. They aren't the best thing on the road in the snow though. For the price they aren't bad.
 
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TNdisco

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I have a 1998 disco 1 with a 2" lift. It has 3.54 gears (I don't care about acceleration). Snow and noise are not a problem for me (live in tennessee and listen to music) so those aren't a factor when choosing a tire. I would like the 265/75 because of the width but what modifications are involved (I know offset spare tire and adjust the steering stops)? Is the turning radius decreased noticably? The 235/85 are also a less expensive tire so i will probably end up going with them anyway.
 

bri

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Yes you will notice the loss of turning radius, but I do not know how important that is to you. It is noticable even with 245/75 which is what I run on road. It is not a really big deal though, so if you want that size go for it as long as they are BFG. ;-) I know an aweful lot of people (including myself) that have skimped on cheap tires thinking they would be as good as th BFG.

They are not. I have not run the recent Goodyear MT/R so unfortunately I cannot give a good comparison there.

I'll never buy anything other than a BFG ever again.

Brian
 
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rtiqulatendisco

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I've had both. MT/R's are better on road and rocks. BFG is better off road and mud.
 
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TexanLR

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talking about...

specials, tirerack has the MT/Rs for 115 each in 245/75's. Just thought you might like to know.
 

Nantahala

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Sam's Club. Order them off the internet because the local Club probably will not have them in stock or they will be a special order anyway. Take the rims in and they will not give you too much grief about putting tires on that are not the manufacturer's recommended size. You can't get the mileage warranty because they can't check the vehicle's mileage, but when is the last time you went back to the tire shop and complained you didn't get the mileage you were 'promised'???
 

GotRovr

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Here's how I rate them on a scale of 10 best and 1 worst

BFG M/T GoodYear MT/R

Sand 5 7

Rocks 6 9

Mud 9 7

Snow 8 6

Wet Pavement 5 6

Dry Pavement 6 7

Total 39 42

I run with MT/R's 265/75R16 ~3 inch lift

45 PSI on road, off road hard pack and gravel
20 PSI off road rocks, mud, loose conditions
15 PSI sand
 
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nickangus

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we have been running mtrs and after 6 months there gone all most no tread left u might want the bfg's the last longer or if u have a large bank account go with what u want

nick
 

Tom in MD

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MT/Rs

I've run both and prefer the MT/R. Better in winter, and seem to be lasting longer on the road. I am dependent on my Disco to get on and off my property when it snows by traversing a trail through the woods. MT/Rs seem to bite better on snow covered branches, leaves, small logs, even on some pretty steep grades. Good grip on wet or dry rocks too. I will order them again from the Tire Rack.
 
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Blueboy

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tire choices

BFG MT will be better in the mud than the MT/R.

Trxus will be better than both in the mud and as a Mud/Snow rated tire, they are siped from the factory so perform well on road in the rain.

BFG MT have better quality control than Interco (at least on the set I had) so they balance easier.

For my next set, I'm going with the BFG MT and have them siped. Good mud tire and with the siping, a decent rock tire, and a liveable on-road tire.

Both tires you're considering are top notch so you can't really to wrong with either choice.


Jaime
 

Lutzgaterr

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Funny how some folks get so excited about the topic and never answer the question stated in the thread. TNDisco, with a 2" lift, even with factory bumpers and no winch, you will need to do some trimming with 235/85, assumming you are running stock rims. Go to the tech section and take a look at the entry regarding tire sizes, or something like that. Add heavier bumpers and winch, even more trimming.
Basically, even though some think 235/85 look goofy, tall and thin tire, the trimming is less than same height tire that is wider such as 265.

I am in Florida, so sand/mud, that is why I have BFGs.
 

RVRSRVC

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I currently run Kumho M/T 235/85 with 4.5" lift, Bilsteins and Rovertym, running very heavy. Inexpensive tire, maintains roundness and balance pretty well. Tire clears okay in front, lightly touches RTE rear bumper inner panel upon stuffage.
I have always wondered about buying the expensive name tires when the $80 E-load rating Kumho seems to do well for my driving style on or off road.
Will probably go with a 255/85 once the 4.10 gears come in.
And, I use a 4.6 to power all of this.