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Jack Quinlan
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I know this is a real basic question, I just need a quick answer. Need to buy OME HD springs and shocks for my DI from a reputable fair retailer on the West Coast. This set isn't very expensive, but I need it soon. Where did you guys buy yours?
thanks.
 

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Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Expedition Exchange

British Pacific
 

Clif Ashley (Cta586)
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com

No questions asked.
Good prices, best service.
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com

Exqusitely focussed knowledge source; best service.

Prices seem in the ball park, but fund of knowledge hands down tipped the scales - and has continued to do so for nearly every subsequent Rover accessory purchase.

Michael
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ditto to EE.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Thursday, October 10, 2002 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'll go against the grain here and offer two other good options...

http://www.bb4wa.com

and

http://www.4x4connection.com
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My vote would go to EE. I recently bought some wiper blades from them. After learning that the adapters didn't fit all models, they checked with me to see if mine fit properly and sent out the correct adapters without me bugging them first. Try to find that level of service elsewhere

I'd rather not look for the absolute lowest price, but try to find an honest vendor that provides a good value.
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Florida voting poll


www.4x4connection.com [ ] ------------ You really meant to mark EE didn't you

www.bb4wa.com [ ] ------------ We know you meant EE so we will change it for you

www.britishpacific.com [ ] ----------------- As I'm sure you misunderstood this, Please mark EE below.

www.expeditionexchange.com [*] The correct vote. We will count this one twice to make sure you are represented.

If you marked anything other than EE above, please go back and complete the ballot again.
 

Rans (Rans)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Man-oh-man Greg, you keeping looking for trouble doncha?? hehe

I suggest contacting Nathan at Discount Rovers:
www.discountrovers.com
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

nathan is on the east coast
 

Ed Petrush (Exp3)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

does it really matter what coast you buy from.. in my experience (good & bad) shipping isn't much different.. unless you want to go to a show room and check the stuff out..

Atlantic British is always a good choice as well.. I guess its all about what good experiences you've had.
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Louisville is now considered to be on the East Coast?

Rob, are you sure you're not from Florida?

Reminds me when I lived in Balto and a co-worker asked me how I liked living in the South and I told him I loved it when I lived in Kentucky! Somehow they didn't like my saying that compared to Kentucky and Indiana, Maryland is considered East Coast. Boy did that get them going.

As for the springs, how can anybody who hangs out on this board not say EE?

Peace,
Paul
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"As for the springs, how can anybody who hangs out on this board not say EE?"

I AGREE


If you marked anything other than EE above, please go back and complete the ballot again.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

everything east of missisippi is east coast.

everything west of rockys is west coast everything in the middle is mid west.

that's my own personal definition.

i was just answering the guys request to buy something from the "WEST COAST" certainly kentucky isn't west coast.

yes, i find price is quit a bit different when shipping across the USA. for some odd reason it costs more to ship something far away..

who knew,
rd
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

" Louisville is now considered to be on the East Coast? "

I remember living in AZ and everyone there thought anything east of the Mississippi and sometimes east of Texas was the East Coast.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"yes, i find price is quit a bit different when shipping across the USA. for some odd reason it costs more to ship something far away..,"
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

" everything east of missisippi is east coast. "

I wasn't quick enough in my reply...

So Rob, How are the beaches on the eastern shore of Kentucky and Tenn?

One day AZ will be part of the west coast. :)
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Al, there's two ways that AZ will become west coast: continue to merge with California, or assume coastal status after California slides away. My vote is for option #2.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

#2 is what most people in Yuma are counting on when they purchased their beach front property. They already have all the sand now just add water. :)
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

at the rate of the global warmin KT should be beachy buy 2020 :)

rd
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

KY?
 

Ken Tipton (Irish_Nv)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I 2'nd EE but the whole east/west coast thing I can lay it to rest. The NFL just restructered all the divisions and the Chiefs (Raiders Fan) remained in the AFC west. All arguments can be solved with football laying the foundation for the stipulation of fact. That being said. The west coast officialy ends just east of Kansas City.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'll pass on the KY, i like my astro-glide.

rd
 

Santa
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RAW !
 

Dee
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Blue, My house wont slide into the Pacific Ocean until the last payment is made and that will be a while, so hold that beach front property in Yuma for a while longer ....

But as far as OME products both EE and Discount Rovers are very competive price wise, look for the small savings on your shipping only a few dollars saved there also price and availibility. I think EE stocks more on hand....

Oh when the wonderfull OME springs start to sag ive got some never used Polly shims for sale...
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

EE stocks "more on hand" than Discount Rovers? LOL.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

john, thats is funny, i bet you use both hands

rd
 

Jroc (Jroc)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm surprised nobody has stated that EE is also one of the few places that Match OME springs. Support EE whenever you can!!! Some people in order to save 12 cents will order from a guy in Fuji, then complaint that it takes sooooo long to recieve the item!!! These are usually the people who will threaten to take there business elsewhere when they've never ordered anything from you! EE knows there shit, Is competatively priced, and supports this Bulletin Board. You need more reasons???
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, October 11, 2002 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

can you hear me now?
 

Steve (Scrover)
Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A B C D EE
 

Dee
Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yep John its true
 

Jack Quinlan
Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 04:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for the enlightened geographical debate. I actually ordered from John at EE this morning. On something like OME HDs price wasn't a factor, I just wanted somewhere close enough to get it by mon. or tues. and I wanted a company that would actually ship me what I asked for. It sounds like that's what I'll get. As stated, John was more than helpful and had time to chat about various other technical topics from bumper angles to hood glare. I hope to do more business with both he and Ho in the future.
 

John Lee
Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"EE stocks 'more on hand' than Discount Rovers? LOL."

"Yep John its true"

Dee, that's why your statement is so laughable. You use the word "more" as if you were comparing two shops with relative amounts of stock on hand. I think if we had a pair of used 751's and two N44's in stock, we would stock "more on hand" than Discount Rovers.
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"EE stocks 'more on hand' than Discount Rovers? LOL."

"Yep John its true"

"Dee, that's why your statement is so laughable."

Completely inconsequent laying by the up with many more angled dancing jingled butterflies!
 

Dee
Posted on Saturday, October 12, 2002 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No John its laughable that i was trying to help you out
 

Jack Quinlan
Posted on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Received my parts immediately.
great service as prediceted.

will buy again.
 

John Lee
Posted on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, Dee. I know you like to "help" people all the time. Thanks but no thanks.
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Uhm, "match" springs? OME's springs are sold as Driver side front
Driverside rear
Pass Side front and
Pass side rear

I know they are also sold with the intent on going into RHD rigs so lots the DS Front goes on the front pass (for us)side (well I know lots of folks who do that...I didn't, I've noticed no odd sag on my XJ).

So, what the heck is "matching" springs? Just curious...

RJ
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I know you like to "help" people all the time.

John, why quotes?

peter
 

John Lee
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You don't remember those posts of his? Ones like these:

"Your power steering box is broken and you need a new one. If you need one, let me know. I'm Dee Cantrell. I can help."
 

Marc Ingham (Marcingham)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RJ,
EE will give you 2 DS (or PS) front and 2 DS (or PS) rear if you like --- so you don't get the "rover lean"
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What don't you guys just swap the drivers to pass and vice verse...there are specific springs for that very reason, just when they're labeled in Aus, they done for RHD rigs....after talking to the guys in tech at ARB USA this is pretty standard procedure. What would be the point of corner-specific spring rates otherwise?

RJ
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Not saying that there are not other suppliers of OME's that deliver with good customer service. I know that there are. I can only speak from my own experience. I bought my springs from EE - KNOWING that I wouldn't have to worry about customer service. As usual, the customer service was above and beyond. When a slight glitch did come up (as could happen anywhere) they jumped through hoops to make sure it was remedied without anyone having to skip a beat on the install (the truck had already been taken half way apart at the time, with some other modifications). For me personally, here is what it's all about; Knowledgeable on the products they sell, (truly knowledable - can't stress that important factor enough) with with a good dose of reliability and integrity.

I also like the fact that if you desire, they will match springs for you.

Just my .013259 cents ... :)

Kim
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hmm, john, dee helped me to get a new PS box at a sweet price. also he mailed me out a range rover door with glass for $25 along with anything else i wanted. the guy was practically giving me all his exterior RR panels for the price of shipping, i just had nowhere to put it so i had to turn it down.

i think dee cantrell is a true land rover enthusiast.

rd
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RJ, I think the reason for matching springs in the US is that when the truck it set up as left hand drive it is more balanced and the differing springs are not needed.............. Can anyone concur or correct me on this?
 

alhang
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, I got nothing but good things to say about Dee, always helpful and reliable. I would buy from him again.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

BTW, I don't think Dee's into OME products, so there shouldn't be any conflict of interests.

Peter
 

John Lee
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RJ,

Matching the springs (two DS or two PS) is something we do because we think it gives better results than the DS/PS combinations. In our experience, the DS/PS springs make the vehicle list toward the PS side. This list exacerbates over time.
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh cool...see us jeep geeks have a different issue...the Right hand drive springsets we get are super but, with the leaf sprung rear, the XJ's tend to sag to the pass side anyhow (from the torque of the driveline...)
When we do the swap, if we put the DS (au) spring on the Drivers side of the XJ (to deal with the driver's weight), it too makes the list to our passenger side worse over time...
So guys have been swapping the front springs side to side and leaving the rears...maybe next time we'll try 2 driverside (au) leaf packs in the rear.

Thanks guys.

RJ
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh cool...see us jeep geeks have a different issue...the Right hand drive springsets we get are super but, with the leaf sprung rear, the XJ's tend to sag to the pass side anyhow (from the torque of the driveline...)
When we do the swap, if we put the DS (au) spring on the Drivers side of the XJ (to deal with the driver's weight), it too makes the list to our passenger side worse over time...
So guys have been swapping the front springs side to side and leaving the rears...maybe next time we'll try 2 driverside (au) leaf packs in the rear.

Thanks guys.

RJ
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

what'cha talking about RJ, since when XJs have torque? gimme that POS 4.0.

the front u-joints on the XJs break all too easily. must be another torque thing :)

peter
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry Pete, the later XJ's (such as my '99 )have the Dana Spicer 297 ujoints, plenty of beef there (same joint as the dana 44)...and uh...235 foot pounds versus the DI's 233...well I don't want to split hairs...a moot point really. This is a Rover BBs, no sense in arguing heh heh.


RJ
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL

that was the one with the 260. a tiny bugger, wonder why did it last so long. the fella broke it coming back up through this place.

one quick Q - at which rpm does the 235lb-ft occur on the XJ's 4.0? and how do the two compare at about 1500 rpm?

An inline 6 and 90-deg V8 should be really close.

but it has nothing to do with the OME...

peter
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Peter, yeah the 260's were pretty damn weak, they're easily retrofitted with the 297's for the pre-96 guys...


The torque peaks looks to be about 3k 0r 3200 for the peak on the 4.0...not sure where the disco's is.

Not sure about the ol'buick tho, can't seem to dig anything up...Probably just not looking in the right places LOL!

RJ
 

Dee
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John you�re a real piece of work, take a very old post and try to impress your opinions of me on everyone when the whole truth be know its sheds a much different light on things�

But since when do lawyers use the truth�.

Ok lets back up a few weeks on that post to a email reply from one of the owners of D-web which you are not I believe?

�As Nathan already knows. I have given him free roam there. If you are his
partner now just do as you please... If anyone gives you any heat tell em to
pound sand.. :) or , any other nice words you can think up..�

Now I am not sure of the outcome of this quote mainly because I did not look in last years archives I did not find it? "Your power steering box is broken and you need a new one. If you need one, let me know. I'm Dee Cantrell. I can help." Who ever I made such a vulgar display of board decorum let me know what was the final outcome of your steering woes� If a new box was needed and you paid more than 299.00 for it you got ripped off.

Um do we need to gather Kyle�s comments to the person posing as an anon calling me a parts-whore or can you remember what you had written�

So I absorbed all the bullshit you and a few others threw out there for just trying to and to help out and start-up my new business� I did apologize for being a bit over zealous the best I could. Now you slam me for trying to send a customer your way man you have got a serious problem?

I have given nothing but high praise about EE since I met you. I continually refered people to you for the products you carried, Dont worry that level of professional courtesy will no longer be extended from me. Save your repute, I know you don�t care or need any thing I send your way your doing fine on your own....

Have a nice John Life Peace and Love
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sooooo,

I just got back from the pub and yes I am a bit loaded..

I ordered some -762 rear springs from EE last Thursday while I was in Dallas. The same day John Lee emailed me thanking me for my support, the springs arrived at my house in Philly.

Bullshit or no bullshit...everytime I email Ho or John, I get the facts I need. That alone will effect my decision to support EE in the future. Why? There are so many aftermarket homos out there that will sell you BS instead of truth based from experience.

Paul and two more pennys
 

James Gall (Jimmyg)
Posted on Saturday, October 19, 2002 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I didn't read the rest of the thread but I know Joel at STAGE WEST in Glenwood Springs CO will meet or beat any OME price. The guy specializes in rock crawling. His number is : 1-800-240-5227

This guy is a no bull-shit kind of guy. If you break something in Moab that he installed, he'll come get you and replace it for free.

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