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Pete
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I wonder why I seldom see Pelican Cases on the roofrack of a LR. Any reason?
 

John Lee
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I suspect the reason is because Pelican cases are so expensive.

Here are a few pics:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC010556.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC010156.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC009166.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/truckhaven2/DSC01593.jpg
 

Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I carry mine inside the truck most of the time for the day trips.
 

John Lee
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Chris,

Do you mean like so:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC008046.jpg

Looking at Michel's Disco, I don't know whether to be impressed or be scared. It's Pelican City inside his Disco, and he packs everything Tetris style with not a scintilla of wasted space.
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn, for some odd reason, I get turned on seeing that perfectly packed cargo area :)
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That reminds me that I need a big Pelican for the back of the disco to keep the tent and camping gear dry and safe..
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.discoweb.org/aloliveira/pa080209.jpg
 

Carter Simcoe (Carter)
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I need to change my pants after that last pic John.
 

Chris von C
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kumbuya! Thats a packing job!

No, on day trips recently, I usally only take 2 with me and maybe a third in the D90. For overnight or longer trips, the camping gear goes in the ones up on the roof rack and then I start loading more into the trucks. I think I still have one that I have never used yet but its good to have in case.

Chris von C
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

We fit 4 1650s tightly on our Brownchurch rack which is mounted to the LWB RR. No slip at all. Probably could get all 5 on the 109. Great product for traveling. Much better than the "tupperware" we used to pack.

Jaime
 

michel
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hehe,

Yeah it took a while to come up with that system. Still a pain in the ass to get something out of them, but it's all in its place and tighly straped down. No gigling even on high speed dirt roads or offroading. For 2 people on long trips (2-3 weeks) we pack it all in there. The beauty here is only one of the 1650's needs to come out for staying in a hotel. One case for 2 people on wheels...it's amazing how the little things help at the end of the day. No more shitloads of stuff to unpack to go to bed.

Michel
 

John Lee
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol Michel! We need 2 1650s just for an afternoon picnic!

Seems like everyone in the family has to have their own whenever we go anywhere and that includes the Labs. Very addictive to have that much easy carrying capacity with a LR. Our flock really has organized our adventures.

Jaime
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ok all you pelican gurus...what do you use for a replacement pin for the latches? One of the pins on one of my 1550's jumped ship. I've only rummaged half-heartedly at the hardware store but can't find anything small enough...
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Blue,

Personally I would give John/Ho with EE a call.

Also might want to try contacting Peli directly:
PELICAN PRODUCTS
23215 Early Ave., Torrance CA 90505
Tel: (310) 326-4700 � Fax: (310) 326-3311

Jaime
 

John Lee
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Blue,

Pelican has an unconditional lifetime warranty on all of its products. I think in your case Pelican would just insert a new pin for you. If Pelican couldn't do that, then you'd get new case I would think.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

john, if you have any feed back at pelican , let them know i have 3 requests.

1) offset the latches. this is nice when i line two or more cases side buy side so the latches dont hit into each other. yes i know i can offset one of the cases, but i am OCD and i want it all neat and tidy, like my mullet.

2) mold a slot thru both lips of the case for a 1" strap, on the side case next to the newly improved offset latch would be a perfect spot.

3) full length piano hinge.

if they would like to pay me for my ideas i'll take payment in the form of a 1650 case ;)

rd
 

Steve Andrews (Sillybus)
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2002 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mullet. Thats a term I haven't heard in awhile. The last time I was in Athens, there was a barbar shop with one of those folding signs out front. It read "Haircuts: $6.00, Mullet Removal: $15.00"
 

nadim
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 02:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What size is that Yelloy one? What are the other sizes?

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC008046.jpg

Thanks a bundle.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

steve you might be interested in mullet counter-culture

http://www.mulletsgalore.com/
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have Anvil cases and am very pleased with them. Those with plywood bodies are indestructible.

However, they are more expensive than even the Pelicans. The new ones will be built at home to the Anvil pattern.

The only problem I have is that last night, I put a new handle on an Anvil case that was given to me. I was all set to use it to carry the GPS, maps and radios when wheeling, but I'm afraid it is now the wife's new laptop case. Sorry John, I might not be buying the Pelican laptop case for her for Christmas as she says she likes the Anvil better as it has a far more intense appearance.

Paul
 

alhang
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.uwkinetics.com/

I like the underwater kinetic cases. I have some of the smaller ones for my camera gear. A little overkill for a case that would located in a vehicle and they cost a little more than the pelican.
 

David Marchand (Dmarchand)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Back to the original, I don't place my Pelican(s) on the roof largely because most of the stuff I keep in them is either too heavy to lift up there, or to heavy to be used on a roof rack (take your pick). I tend to keep all tools and spares, food and recovery equipment in mine.

I try to store softer, lighter items like tents, sleeping bags, etc., up there. I'm a bit too weary of being top heavy, either on road or on the trail.
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nadim,

If memory serves, the two big black cases are 1650's. The three black, yellow, and orange cases are 1550's. And the small orange case on top is a 1400.
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That Underwater Kinetics website is very interesting. I couldn't help but be reminded of the movie Coming To America, where one of the characters ran that fake McDonald's called "McDowell's". That's what crossed my mind while looking at the UK website. I'm surprised this UK place adopted the name "Underwater Kinetics" instead of "Seabird" or something similar.

I've also seen the UK cases at the local Sports Chalet. I think the Pelican cases are far superior to the UK cases. Just my opinion.
 

alhang
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i agree, as far for value is concerned the pelican line can't be beat. and there is also something to be said about being first to market. but i really like the 800 series (a friend has these for his digital camera equipment). UK used to only make dive lights and knives, the case business started a few years ago i think.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

there are also http://www.starlightcases.com/, very nice,, but arent in big sizes.

i have an absolute hard on for the tool box

http://www.starlightcases.com/Untitled-3.jpg
http://www.starlightcases.com/sizes.htm

it runs about 400 bucks i think

rd
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

thanks for the info James & John. I'll give Peli a shout and see if they'll send me a new pin. Saguaro spines have been working fine...it's collecting them that's the bitch...
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ooh that toolbox is cool. is that abs on the outside? muy bien.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, it's completely water proof when closed. comes with the drawers and wheels.

rd
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This tool kit gives me wood:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC008136.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC008126.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC008116.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC008106.jpg
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/rubicon/DSC008406.jpg
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i think i know who's kit that is and he was telling us about it on the Hole trail... damn, much nicer than described... hehee

i'll take the h2o prrof box, with those tools

fuck and the bag too

rd
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

but John, that's the property of the US Army...what's it doin on the rubicon? :)
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Don't worry. That kit is legit. It's not stolen. It was comped by Snap-on.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn, comped by snap-on...that's a gift worthy of kings...
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, it's tantamount to being comped by Playboy.
 

Al Cruz (Alc)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ahhh, very nice so those are the ones you were talking about!
 

Greg Bright (Gregd2)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, those pelican cases look badass. I've been thinking about getting two of the big ones for the roof rack. I use the tupperware inside, but they aren't worth a damn on the rack when it's raining.
 

Greg Bright (Gregd2)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn, I just saw those pics of the snap-ons, that is SWEEEEET! I have a full set of craftsman tools in a box that fits perfect in the D2, but DAMN! that set of snap-ons is the shit. That's the worst thing about my tool box is it rattles on the trails, not real bad, but enough that I would love to have a foam lined bag like that. I wonder if they make those bags for purchase by the general public?
 

John Lee
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think the price on that kit was $6,000. (!)

If you're still awake and haven't fainted, I think that kit is exclusively for the US Army. And I think the $6,000 price tag is the bulk/Army rate. And you thought Pelicans were expensive.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

just going to the snap on website and surfing around makes me think the 6k price tag is reasonable.

rd
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2002 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn wrenches must be forged from mithril
 

KJ
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

MITHRIL! Man, I can't wait 'til Christmas! This will keep my mind off all the wood chat on this thread. Damn Rob, you're easy....easier than gp, and that's saying something! LOL!

Karen :)
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Being a helicopter mechanic, I have a decent set of tools. It took me three years and $7k to fill a 12 drawer roll-a-way with Snap-On and Craftsman stuff. And you are never ever done buying tools.

At the last place I worked, we had a Snap-On dude come by every Wednesday. It was funny to see him roll in and blow the horn because every mechanic would flock to his truck as if the Holy Grail itself were inside! He was like a crack dealer, except he had a credit card machine and a payment plan.

Paul
Confessed Snap-On addict
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mithril, eh? Isn't that why we're geologists, to try to find the right outcrop to start delving in the manner of the dwarves?

:)


-L
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg Bright, do you have a hard-cased Crafstman set? If so, here's a tip to stop some of the rattles. Worked for mine.

Open the case and spread a layer of Saran wrap across the lower half. Spray a layer of the expanding plumber's foam over the wrap, and cover the foam with another layer of the wrap. Close your case and let it dry. Then, trim around the edges, and you have a foam filler that can be removed when using your tools. It took about 95% of the rattles out of my set.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

keren , if you remember back i think i was the first to admit to getting wood over inanimate objects, at least on this bbs,, :)

yes i am easy.

rd
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There's a Snap-on warehouse a few miles from my house. The warehouse is completely fenced in with the nasty barbed wire to deter would-be thieves.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg D.,

That's a good idea... I've got a Craftsman hard-cased socket set, too..... Hmmm..........


-L
 

Greg Bright (Gregd2)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg D.,

That's a great idea! I currently use this box,

http://www.discoweb.org/gregbright/ActionPackerBoxes.jpg

if I made one of those form fitted layers for each drawer, that may work very well! Thanks for the tip! You just saved me $6000!

John, sorry I'm just now responding from your post, I just came to after I passed out from that price tag! ($6000 DAMN!)

Greg
 

KJ
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rob, I remember it well. Members here sure don't need Viagra (pun unavoidable). I AM learning a lot about men though...you guys are the best!

Karen :)
 

Greg Bright (Gregd2)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John,
Are these 1600's or 1650's on Ho's rack?

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC009096.jpg

I'm trying to figure out which one's I would want for my roof rack. Do both have wheels for rolling or just 1650? These look like great cases for airline travel too. I'd like to see Delta trash these!
 

Greg Bright (Gregd2)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, I guess you could answer this too :)
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

One more thing. Once you've closed your case, it may be too airtight for the foam to set up. If that's the case(no pun intened!), take a pin and poke small holes in the areas that haven't set up yet. That will allow enough air for the foam to dry.

I'm so glad that others can benefit from me being so anal!
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn Greg, you even got a CUTE tool box too.. heheheheehhe :)
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/dusy/DSC009096.jpg

Greg, those are 1650's. Both Ho and I like the 1650's the best for general use. My other favorite cases are the 1600 and 1400.

To my knowledge, there are only five Pelican cases with the wheels: 1610, 1620, 1650, 1660, 1700, and 1750.

The 1700 and 1750 are dedicated gun cases. These are available in no-foam versions and suitable for general use as well, but I think these are best suited for gun use like so:

http://expeditionexchange.com/pelican/DCP_0569.jpg
http://expeditionexchange.com/shooting/NewPictures004b.jpg

The 1610 and 1620 are similar in size to the 1600, but have the amenities of the 1650 such as the wheels, retracable pull handles, and large locking latches. The 1610 and 1620 are also taller than the 1600. I think Ax has a 1614 (1610 with padded dividers) and a 1609 (photographer's lid organizer) to hold his video camera equipment. This is the case that safeguards equipment used to film the DiscoWeb videos.

The 1660 is a taller version of the 1650. This is a huge case and frankly I think it's a little too big. Even a 1650 case is seriously heavy when it's loaded. The case alone weighs about 25 lbs. and when it's loaded fully it's very difficult to lift into the truck. For roof rack use, I usually lift the 1650 onto the rack and then load it because it's so hard to lift a loaded case onto the roof rack.
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Eric, I knew I could count on you!
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey it's a dirty job but, some one had to do it..


FAWKER... :)
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/pelican/DCP_1589.jpg

that's how i usually carry the two 1650s.
and they are great for airline travel... but they will turn heads in the baggage pick up area.
so, not too good if you want to keep low key. :)
 

Ray
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You may try this. If your LR Adventure roof rack has a flooring you can fit two jerry cans lying sideways in between two 1550's. Other option a 1650 sandwich between two jerry cans lying sideways. One more option one 1610 sandwich between two jerry cans lying flat.
 

Ray
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, if you use 1650 to travel you already lost 25 lbs from the 70 lbs the airline would allow? You are limited to what you can put in.
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

not that i travel much, but never had trouble with weight issues in the luggage check in.

how heavy are the samsonites anyways? they dont' seem to be that much lighter...

maybe if i was a bowling ball sales man... that would suck eh? :)
 

Brick Salesman
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, those bowling ball salesmen are suckas!
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i hear it takes alot of balls

rd
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Friday, October 18, 2002 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Na, they are just a bunch of pin heads....


um, ya..

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