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Chris Wiginton
Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am in the market for some new tires for my Disco II and, at this point, I would like to stick with the stock size. I have called around to several places today and the three types of tires that the places keep telling me that they have for this particular size are as follows:
Michelin Cross Terrain; Michelin 4x4 XPC; and Pirelli Scorpion ST. I have the Goodyear HP's with the cupping problem right now, so I
assume any of these would be an improvement.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions before I plunk down a bunch of cash on some new tires?
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Uh....

Are you planning on doing a lot of off-roading, or just a little light dirt-road travelling?

If nothing too hairy, I'd suggest the Cross-Terrains... I've not used them personally, but haven't heard anything bad about them. I had the 4x4 XPC, it's a great tire for a Disco on the road, and not bad in light off-roading... I was under the impression that it wasn't available anymore, though. If you're only on the road, the Pirellis would be okay, but you don't want to go there if you are even thinking about going off-road.

If you really want to go off-road, you need to look at something more aggressive.

More info, and we can try to help ya more... :)


-L
 

Chris Wiginton
Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't do a ton of off-roading and nothing really hairy at this point, but I want a tire that gives me the flexibility to do some off-roading. I am not really in a position to do any serious modifications at this point, but that is a definate possibility in the future.

I too was under the impression that the XPC's had been discontinued, but they are the only ones that I would not have to order. I guess the tire dealers up here in DC have some left over.

Hopefully, this is enough information to continue the ball rolling.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

chris cross rotate your tires and wait 3000 mi. your cupping should go away. unless your down to 2/32nds of tread,then lay down some cash.
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

cross terrain? did you say cross terrain? i like them.
real good tires.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That's why I suggested them Ho.... if you like 'em, that can't be THAT bad....

:)


-L
 

c2sox
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What exactly is "cupping"?

Thx,
Al
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Al,

http://www.metropark.com/safewaytire/tireware.html


-L
 

mateu
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Chris,
Before I decided I wanted to further outfit my Disco for offroad, I bought new stock size tires. It is mostly the family car afterall. The Michelin XPC have been discontinued, but they have an identical tire in its place. I don't recall the name at the moment (has 4x4 in title), but it's the only 235/70/16 with the high speed rating recommended by LR. I think the speed rating thing was just a big ploy the sales guy used to convince me not to get anything unrated, but jeez, who's going to drive their Disco 130mph? I kinda regret the purchase now. Michelins cost WAY WAY too much.

Leslie Bright will recommend the Dunlop radial rover r/t's, which are generally agreed upon as a great compromise tire for road or off-road. Did I call that one right, Leslie?

If you never plan on lifting your rig, stock size is fine, but I would have gone with the radial rovers in a larger size had I done my homework before calling the tire shop.

Hope that helps.
Matt
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matt, LOL...

If you see the dirt often enough, the Dunlop R/T tires are great. Better on the road than a mud-tire. They don't come in 235/70R16... they do come in 235/85R16 and 245/75R16, though... which either size should be fine.

If you're a mall-crawler, you'll think them too loud, maybe. Not like the stock Michelins were quiet, though.

:)

-L
 

Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The H rating is mostly because it takes some stiff sidewalls to support a Rover. You could probably run Q-rated tires (good up to 98 mph) but they would have to be in the 104-106 load range, and that's not a combination i've seen. The Pirelli's are good. Ride nice, quiet. Not too expensive. Yes, the Michelins are expensive, but I guarantee there is not a better quality tire made, whereas being able to randomly find a brand new out-of-round Goodrich tire is quite easy. the choice is yours.
 

warrenl
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

just want to share my .02, I just bought a set of Dunlop Radial Rover R/V's in the stock size 235/70/16 it runs great, of course i've only had them for 24 hours but they are much more quite then the stock Michelin XPC's with enough aggressiveness in them so you won't feel like it won't perform well off road.
 

Ron
Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

1. This guy has a DII stock is not 235 70 R16

2. Of the choices listed XPCs are good if somewhat spendy

3. If you want a tad more meat under there you can run 245 75s on a stock DII in which case you have an unlimited number of choices (including the much lauded dunlop R/T).

4. Speed rating is not related to sidewall stiffness in the way Anon. implies. What you are really looking at there is load rating. Speed rating is really not related. For example you can have tires rated at 67mph top speed but that will support 3200lbs each.

Ron
 

Anonymous
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

GO with Firestone's, hehe.
 

Steve Fesperman
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a '00 Disco II that had the Goodyear HPs. At 25K the tires were so bad that I called Goodyear. They sent me to a certified dealer.

Choices: Pirelli, Michelin, Toyo or Goodyear.

In order to keep me happy, Goddyear agreed to give me 50% credit on the new Fortera. It is not a tire for serious off-roading, but fine for the driving I do.

Even from the brand new HPs I had when I first drove off the lot to the Michelins the dealer is now putting on all DIIs, the road noise is significantly reduced.

--Steve
 

Kristopher March (Apexdisco)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Looks like I have a serious case of wear due to incorrect camber on both rear tires. I'm also just about at the legal "worn out" (2/32nd) limit on my tires. I'm not able to put new tires on for at least two more weeks. And I'll be putting about 1200 miles on the tires until then. Do you guys think I'll be alright till then? It worries me a little.
I've got a 99 Disco I with 235/70R16 and been looking at Goodyear Conquests or Uniroyal's since they are cheap. I do 95% hwy driving.

Thanks in advance.
 

Mateu
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Chris,
The Michelin XPC's were replaced with what they're calling the 4x4 Synchrone, if you're interested. I've been on them for all my highway driving and they feel great, but my wallet is still groaning.
Matt
 

Chris Wiginton
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matt,

I was not able to find anything about the Synchrone on the Michelin website.

Can you point me to any information about them?

Chris
 

Milan
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Since it's a DII why not some 265/75R16 GoodYear MT/R's? :)
 

Milan
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just noticed you wanted to stick to stock size, so disregard my previous reply.

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