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Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:07 pm: | 
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The right front of my '97 Disco (61,000 miles) is making a loud popping sound when steering to the left and right. It only does it when there is a load on the spring/shock, so I'm thinking I have a worn set. I checked the radius arm bushings, changed the bushings in the panhard rod bar, and torqued down on every other nut and bolt I could find. Please help because this trial and error thing can get expensive. |
Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
| | Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2002 - 09:08 pm: |
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do you do m uch off roading? is your truck stock? |
joey lafever
| | Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 12:00 pm: |
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mine does this too... and has for like a year now... I would love to find out which bushing it is so that I could fix it... some off roading and truck has OME HD springs and shocks... |
Chip Salisbury (Disconites)
| | Posted on Monday, October 28, 2002 - 10:28 pm: |
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I have a 97 with OME shocks and springs and mine does it as well. Anyone have any thoughts? |
Peter J Blatt (Peteb)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2002 - 07:49 pm: |
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Mine makes loud clicking noises from the driver side front when hitting small bumps at times, but especially when i pull the front left wheel up on a ramp about 18" high, it has done this since i bought it w/45 k on it now up to 85k on my D1, Does anyone know??? |
Brian
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 04:46 am: |
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My '97 D1 also makes these "clicking" noises over small bumps, would like to know the cause, so would the Great Rover Oracle please post? |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:22 am: |
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Shocks, springs, tie rod ends, bushings, CV joint? I have know idea. It's driving me absolutely crazy. The weirdest thing is that it doesn't seem to react as bad when it rains. |
Peter J Blatt (Peteb)
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 30, 2002 - 11:03 pm: |
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when it rains mine quiets up a bit and also the colder it gets the quieter it gets now for the good question, when one greases the front slide on the front drive shaft, does the grease flow out where the slide meets the front U joint? am i missing something up there? i noticed that this does not happen on the rear drive shaft. |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:12 am: |
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I can't seem to find anyone that knows what the hell is happening with this thing. Now I have a vibration coming from the front at high speeds. Tires are almost new and are properly balance. I also have a new OME steering stabilizer. The popping is getting worse, and I can't stand the vibration. There has to be someone out there that can help. Please!! |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:39 am: |
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Peter Blatt:
When you grease the sliding joint, the grease should come out from the joint nearest the transfer case. At the end where it meets the sliding splined shaft, there is a nut and packing to keep the grease where it belongs and to help support the shaft in alignment. At the other end, there is a little rubber cap that the grease will flow out around. Mine had seized up and the grease was unable to go anywhere. It took heroic efforts to separate the halves and eventually, it wore itself out. Typically, problems with a front driveshaft don't cause a clicking noise, but a clunking with a vibration that will be intermittent. When the vibration begins to make images in the mirrors indistinct, it's time for a new driveshaft.
As for the clunking/clicking noises, I found that when I replaced my shock absorbers, these noises went away. Judging from the reported mileages, it may be time for new shocks. I got the Bilsteins, but wasn't impressed, but many love them. Everybody (and I mean everybody) tells me they are the best shocks on Earth-maybe my expectations were too high. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 11:55 am: |
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parrish, have you checked the shocks yet? how about the bushings? you said you were going to, but havent came back and ruled any of that out..
describe the vibration, is it something you feel, or is something you just hear?
rd |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 02:28 pm: |
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The vibration is definitely a feeling (and not a good one). It only happens between 60 and 70 miles per hour and it only started recently. Maybe it is the drive shaft as suggested, because the vibration is seemingly intermittent. I have not checked the shocks yet, but it's on the list.
some more symptons for review:
chirping sound coming from the front end
intermittent vibration (like unbalanced tires)
clunking sound when loading the springs
general loose front end feeling when hitting bumps |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 02:53 pm: |
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What is the condition of your: U-joints, shocks, bushings. At 61,000 miles, it is likely that at the very least, the universals need to be replaced.
Status of swivel ball lubricant?
Inquiring minds... |
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 02:59 pm: |
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I am having almost the same problem on my '89 RRC. It started a few weeks ago(after I got my Front CV joint fluid changed. It makes a poping noise when turing, and the front end vibrates alot in the 60-70mph range. Yeasterday I tighted up my panhard rod, and all of the trailing arms and controll arms, but I haven't gotten on the Highway today. About 10 months ago I put on all new bushings and OME MD springs and shocks. Sorry I'm not much help!
Will Bobbitt |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 04:49 pm: |
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Will, looks like you and I are in the same boat. I'll check the swivel ball lubricant this weekend and let everyone know. It's not too promising that Will replaced the shocks and springs and still has the problem. |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 05, 2002 - 09:42 pm: |
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Quote:"chirping sound coming from the front end
intermittent vibration (like unbalanced tires) "
Ujoint going bad most likely, and if you have a stock front shaft with a lift, it's probably the rear ujoint on the front shaft, near the tcase.
Drop the front shaft, lock the tcase and go for a drive. If the noise and vibration goes away, you found the culprit, if not repeat with the rear shaft. Change those bad ujoints ASAP, when it chirps, it's about to go. You don't want it to go while you are driving, belive me.
Quote:"clunking sound when loading the springs
general loose front end feeling when hitting bumps "
My guess first guess would be radius arm bushings, especially since you say it goes away some when it rains. Mine did the exact same thing, and it was a loose bolt on the left front radius arm. They can be a bitch to get tight, you may have to use a extension bar.
It could of course be a bad shock, too. |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2002 - 06:41 pm: |
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Swivel pins needed some juice. Did that, and the sound is still there. However, I removed the right front shock and found massive play (I could hear the fluid sloshing inside). I could also compress the spring with my hand (not a lot, but that's not a good thing). Maybe it's the spring/shock. |
Mike McNamara
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 05:45 pm: |
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I live over here in Germany and have a NAS '95 Disco. For the past couple weeks i have heard a ticking/popping sound coming from the front right corner when making tight left turns. Am concerned it is something within the swivel joint housing. Can anyone confirm?
Also a year or so ago there was a great troubleshhoting website up and running that was searchable. Anyone know what happened to it? |
Yo!adrian (Adrian)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:01 pm: |
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Mine "knocks" when going over speed bumps, pot holes, etc... I can tell my shock bushings are warn down, which seems to be the culprit. Do ya'll know where I can purchase these bushings?
Thanks. |
Christopher Boese (Christopher)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 03:12 am: |
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And I've got an '02 Discovery Kalahari with 1500 miles on it, and I was hearing this sort of thing even when I was test-driving it (didn't think anything of it at the time, but of course it's torturing me now.) Then I take the truck offroad and I don't care anymore.
Still, I've been to two different dealers and neither could find anything wrong. |
Peter J Blatt (Peteb)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 06:09 pm: |
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The D1 that i have may have 85k on it but i do have only about 20k on the ome hd shocks and springs, with no vibes up to 85 mph or so, never gone any quicker, but thank you for the info about the front spline shaft though, oh the clicking noise was there before and after the ome set, thanks again
Peter |
bob
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 12:24 pm: |
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I might as well throw mine in too. 97 Disco 60,000 miles also makes a popping noise when turning to the left and right. Popping, not clicking. I have new shocks and springs so i dont think that is the problem. Im guessing panhard rod bushings or "something that has to do with steering and turning" since you only hear it when you do that. who knows? |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 09:12 am: |
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It's not the panhard rod bushings. I changed those already (be advised that you will need a machine shop to press those bushings if you decide to change them). I have new shocks and springs on the way. I'm hoping this will help. The only other thing it could be (besides the CV joint) is the radius arm bushings. We'll see. |
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
| | Posted on Monday, November 18, 2002 - 03:54 pm: |
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For the bushings, you can use a pipe clamp that has one end as a screw on it to get the new ones in. And to get the old ones out you can use the basically the same method for the rubber part, and use a hack saw for the steel part. I know it is much easier to take it to a machine shop...but... I am still having the clicking sounds, I am going to check my swivels right now...
Will Bobbitt |
Ken Rountree
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 19, 2002 - 10:03 pm: |
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Parrish, let me know if the shocks and springs help. My 98 is doing that. Mine is a popping sound when turning. Dealer said it was the panhard rod which was tightened as part of the 90K service. He assured me that was it, but it still does it.
Are you replacing the springs/shocks with stock or OME? I wouldn't mind some lift with the OME springs. |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 20, 2002 - 08:05 am: |
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I'm using the Old Man Emu progressive springs and shocks. It has become very apparent to me that their is more knowledge in this forum than at any dealership. My dealer told me the popping sound was the shock bushings, panhard rod bushings, and so on. They just want your money (labor rate here is $85 per hour). I'll let everyone know if the springs/shocks help. |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 03:13 pm: |
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Changed the front shocks and springs. This helped the popping sound tremendously, but it didn't cure the problem. Now I'm really stumped. |
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
| | Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 04:19 pm: |
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Have you changed your u-joints? That stoped my knocking sound (knock on Wood).
Will |
Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
| | Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 05:48 pm: |
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That's next. I noticed that the angles on the front drive shaft don't exactly look kosher. The popping sound is coming about where the front u-joint connects to the pinion. Maybe that's it. We shall soon see. |
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