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vmargo
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just bought a D1 for the obvious reasons, but have found that the child restraint seats that I have position the kids so that their feet touch the back of my seat. I am 6'3", so how do I block the classic "Need a Suburban for the kids" routine? Anyone have any seat suggestions? My sons are 3.5 and 1.5.

Thanks in advance.
 

John Kruger (Johnnyk)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Get the Jump Seats for the very back of the truck, kids love sitting back there.

John

Expedition Outfitters,LLC
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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vmargo
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It is an SE7, but the kids have to be in seats, and I don't think it would be safe for them back there.....looks like I might lose this one...!
 

doug james (Dgj95lwb)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Get a 95 LWB w/4.2. Acres of legroom; I too, am 6-3", and the rear leg-room is simply unbelievable.
Further, the rear door ingress/egress relationship is SO much better than the 'short whl base' ie DI/DII. Get a rack and you have the stuff capacity of your basic UPS truck !

Standard: dual/front air bags, door impact beams at each door, elec traction control (2 whl) and 4.2 /250lbs ft torque,+all the other needed and 'nice to have' stuff. Another point: you can work on it yourself. Last of the DIY LR/RR as the OBD II began in MY 96.

If you look for one, the EAS is an important consideration. Get other opinions on this board. The shortage of legroom is a fact of DI/DII life.....
The LWB is also better-smoother-on the highway, and less twitchy compared to the swb's. It will maybe satisfy the mom too. Best, doug 95 @ 98k
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

totally agree with Doug.
 

Wes Legaspi (Wes)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

freelander?
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

he just bought the d1, i am sure he wants to run out and buy a RR, especially since the d1 probably just depreciated about 30% as i am typing this.
 

Kingfish (Kingfish)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yea, kids really love those jump seats. I let my neice and her friends in the back and they made some kind of playhouse crap back there with their damn tea cups and barbi dolls! I had to physicaly carry them out because they wouldn't leave.
 

Daniel
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't know much about child seats, but can you turn the youngest one's seat backwards behind the driver's seat? His (her?) little feet won't hit the back of your seat anymore. Then you can strap the older child in behing the wife who must be shorter thus leaving plenty of legroom for 3 y/o legs???
Good luck. My sister drives a Suburban.
(land barge)
 

chris browne
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My kids are 5.75yr and 2.5yr. I'm 6ft 4 and 40yr.
No problems here with the kids or wife....

Sure older kid can touch rear seats younger one can too but its cheaper to buy better seats than to change trucks
 

Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

After having shopped around for seats, I certainly agree. Go out and shop for a pair of better seats. Otherwise, your throwing away the baby with the bathwater. $300~$500 for a pair of high-end quality seats is going to be a much lighter hit on your wallet then getting a new ride. You can also donate your old seats and get a write off.
 

Mike B.
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Zack (my son) kicked the seats for awhile as he was growing up (he's 4.5 now). I put on a set of water-proof seat covers so he wouldn't get the back of the seats dirty. Now I don't care if he kicks the back of the seat or not.

Thanks,
Mike B.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

put the kid with the longer legs in the middle. put the smaller kid right next to him behind your wife. then you can recline and blissfully listen to your wife yell at the kids for beating on each other.
:)
 

JMcD
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Amputate...... JMcD
 

JRoc
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leave the wife, adopt midgets, keep the Rover!
 

Tommy Dougherty (Skydiver)
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've got 2 kids.. 3.5yrs & 2yrs. They're in 'booster carseats' now, which are much thinner than the standard carseats and only cost $80 each. (They have the 5pt harness, etc -rated for 80lbs).

I put my daughter (2yrs) behind me and my son (3.5yrs) behind my wife. We tried the deal w/ one behind my wife and one in the middle, but they fought too much. :) I'm only 5'11" so I don't need to have my seat back that much, but they've still got several inches of legroom.

They get to ride around all week in mommy's minivan, and we make it a 'treat' that they can ride in 'daddy's truck' ONLY if they behave in there... and wouldn't you know it, they do! haha

Best of luck to you!!
-Tommy
 

Ross
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well we've got 3 across the back. My oldest son, Alex, stays behind the passenger seat he's almost 5 and in a booster. My daughter, Lizzie, is 20 months old and she rides behind the driver with a booster type seat with a 5pt harness. My youngest son, William 4months, is in a rear facing infant seat in the middle. They all fit very well. The older kiddo's seats are more upright so there is plenty of room. Of course this is in my wife's 97 SE "Mall Crawler".

Ross
97 LSE "for sale" BRG 93K 2own $13K
97 SE Rioja "Wifes mall crawler"
 

Tom P.
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ross,

What brand seat do you have (for each child, if they're different)?

I have two boys (1.5 & 3) and I cannot fit my seats in the center and one side position. I also have not found seats that I think will fit properly for this.

With the center rear seat position lost - squished between the two child seats - the Disco is reduced to a 4 person vehicle. I'd like to carry five ;-)

Tom P.
 

brian friend
Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've got 4 kids. 1.5, 2.5 boys...they sit in car seats. 11 and 9 year old girls. They sit in the jump seats facing each other. The jump seats are very convinient for them to scratch each other and beat each other up. I'm thinking that if they kill each other back there then I wont need to buy a roof rack cause I will have all kinds of cargo room.

brian friend
97 se7
colo springs
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm telling you, there has got to be a way to push the rear 60/40 back a couple of inches. I go nuts with my 3 year old kicking the back of my seat. Put her in the middle and she kicks both seats.

I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable putting the kids in the rear seats as they face inward.

Anyone have any ideas for a rear bench relocation kit?
 

Chris Browne
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No idea Eric, but I think the rear catch for the upright section is likely to be a problem
The times I had three in the back it ain't easy since the third kid is also 5 and in a booster...those seats overall are just too wide for the rear seat of a disco....
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

one word to solve all those kid problems....VELCRO!
 

doug james (Dgj95lwb)
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I wasn't trying to solve the kid problem-just the pending wife problem and the current vehicle problem. That you fell for/purchased the 'incorrect vehicle' for the intended purpose is one thing; I'm trying to keep you in an LR. The best 'vehicle based solution', the 95 RR lwb-has not been improved upon in this thread you'll note.

Different seats for the varmits, er,ah, the kidlets, IS a fine suggestion. Your reality is that for several more years, the legs get longer and your cabin space shrinks, regardless of the seats. Time to.................................

Face the music.

Straight across trade if your careful in terms of $$$$. Best- doug, epsom green acres-of-room, WA
 

Tom P.
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Doug (LWB),

You're absolutely right about the extra 8 inches in the LWB. THis will solve the *kicking the seat*. However, my 3 yo never seems to do this and/or stops when I ask...

The real limitation of the LR rear seats crosses all lines of D1/ClassicRR/LWB and even the D2. The limitation is actually seat width, or more importantly, wheel well intrusion into the seat base. THis affect the ability to place more than two child seats or two childs seats and an adult. I hopefully will have a solution this Spring.

Tom P.
 

KJ
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This is so cute....all the Daddies talking car seats and kid wranglin'! Go on with it, boys!

Karen :)
 

caps
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 03:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Real simple answer: sell the wife and kids, keep the disco!
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Get a deflector shield (wood, clear plastic sheet) and put it on the back of your seat (w/velcro). Better still - a steel plate:)
 

vmargo
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

WOW...Thanks for all the input. I have been away for a couple of days and can't believe the # of replys. My concern isn't with the kicking of the seats...they stop when I ask them to. The concern is the lack of leg room in the event of an accident. Being that close to the seats would be very dangerous to their little legs. BTW, the kids are in booster 5 point harness seats that are flush with the rear seat.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

the sad truth is:

16 month old daughter in middle of back seats,

wife in driver's seat,

I'm in driver's seat of wife's little car :(
 

Curtis
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

vmargo,

If thier legs are what your main concern then I would say you are OK in the D1. It would be highly unlikely you would hit anything hard enough to move thier legs into your seat. Granted - this is as long as thier boosters are in correctly. Back seats have a tendency to stay put better than fronts and if thiers moves forward, yours will too.

The only exception to this would be if you were to be hit from behind at a really high speed Enough to break the seat back. If that is the case then it would take a LOT of legroom to overcome how far back you go. Matter of fact, the argument could be made that less legroom is better under this circumstance because it allows for less momentum to be gathered before impact.

Be happy and drive.

Curtis
 

Chris Merritt (Smokinbro)
Posted on Monday, March 11, 2002 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There was a posting months ago where someone posted photos of their D1 after a high speed roll-over ( > 60 mph). There were two children in the back seat, properly strapped into child seats. Everyone walked away, children unhurt. The photos were really impressive showing how the D1 deformed on impact but still managed to keep the passenger compartment rougly the same size. I two have two little ones and I am quite content drivign them around in the D1.

Just keep those child seats attached to the backseat tightly.
 

KJ
Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That was Tommy Dougherty's truck, and those WERE some scary, yet impressive pictures. He was impressed enough to turn right around and buy another Disco, which tells me a lot.

Karen

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