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Brent Fox (Bfox)
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:00 pm: | 
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I just ordered a roof rack and lighting. I want to add another switch where the cruise master switch is but I'm outta room. Is there any reason I couldn't/shouldn't remove the cruise master switch and wire it so that the cruise feed is always "on". The cruise switch stays on all the time, can't remember actually ever using it. This would give me room for one last switch. It's a Disco I if that matters. Thanks |
Randall Smith
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 09:55 pm: |
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Sounds like a good plan to me(unless there's something we haven't thought of). Just connect the cruise wire up permanately, and use the switch for something else. Use the switch to turn on a relay for the lights.
Randall |
Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 10:00 pm: |
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Ever mistakenly hit the 'resume' button in slow traffic, when the cruise control was set to something high? That's a fright neither I, nor the person in front of me will ever forget! |
muskyman
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 10:04 pm: |
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step on the brake and it turns off, so where's the button come in? |
OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks)
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 11:44 pm: |
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When you hit "resume" it will attempt to go back to the last speed set in the ECU provided you are above the minimum MPH. |
Eric Pena (Evalp)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 12:04 am: |
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Unless you are drunk or jut plain slow, that seems like an unlikly event.
Under 30 it will not work anyway right, and if you are following someone to close and you hit them after you hit the resume button (woops) and can't stop in enouph time and your going over 30...your an idiot!
I think it is a fine idea. I drive with mine on all the time anyway I think i will do it just to free up the slot. |
Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 02:24 am: |
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Knowingly and voluntarily taking on the added risk, classified as 'unlikely', not highly unlikely, or nearly impossible, simply so that you don't have to think of a better place for ONE new switch, seems like the idiotic path to me.
Add to this the fact that you will probably not be the ONLY person to drive the truck for the rest of it's life span. The added 'unlikely' risk is far more dangerous to someone who isn't aware of the modification, and who may be uncomfortable with cruise control in the first place.
Besides, do you realy think this is the last extra switch you will ever put into your truck? Plan for some scalability for Pete's sake. Build yourself an unobtrusive switch box somewhere. |
streak
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 03:58 am: |
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Agreeing with Erik. Most vehicle manufacturers include this switch to prevent accidental activation of the cruise control. Why did they do it? Because there were many accidents reported due to unintentional activation of the cruise control.
I think you have read enough here to talk you out of it!!
www.worst4x4.freeservers.com |
Ken Dunnington (Ihwillys)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 10:05 am: |
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Personally I wouldn't do it but I don't see a big deal in doing it. If you leave it on all the time anyway, then you and anyone else would still have the risk of inadvertantly hitting set or resume. Besides, the 'resume' setting is cleared when the vehicle is turned off so one would have had to have used it that trip, which means they probably still have the switch on anyway, etc... Hit the brake, it turns off. Is not hitting the brake the most common reflexive reaction to unintended vehicle speed? Yes, I understand the switch is there to disable when not in use but if you leave it on all the time...
It is however a liability issue. Say someone or yourself gets into an accident and your wiring of the cruise to on is discovered. This sounds like fodder for the insurance companies, both your own to not cover or limit coverage, and theirs to go after you for everything they can get. We live in an extremely litigious society and thus silly little things like this matter. I recently decided not to run some military ND tires due to the fact that they are not DOT certified. I wouldn't expect to get a ticket for it but if in an accident and the non-DOT tires were discovered...
Ken |
muskyman
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 10:14 am: |
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i think the switch is there to reset the damn thing
i have driven three disco's that for some reason(speed sensor?) the cruise kicks off then needs a couple pushes of the switch to reactivate the cruise system.
lots of cars have cruise with no seperate on off switch so the whole safty issue is just kinda paranoia in my book |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 11:10 am: |
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my switch has been on for 4 years. I'm surprised the little orange bulb hasn't burned out. You guys are too paranoid - you gotta let the smoke clear every now and then.... |
Rans (Rans)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 12:23 pm: |
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So heres a relatiely inexpensive option, particularly if you are not a smoker. There is a switch housing made for RRC that fits in the slot where the ashtray or coin holder is. It holds 3 switches. I don't exactly remember the price, but the housing and each switch are under $20 ea. Contact Nathan at Discount Rovers, he is familiar as he's sold me a set and a few other guys from on here. I think someone on here had a D2 for sale with a photo of the switchs....check the for sale section from August/September. |
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 12:58 pm: |
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Do it.....
Even if you do accidently hit the resume button, and although the acceleration of a disco is like a dragster, and your are trying to read the bumper sticker on the car in front of you, and your eyes are closed, and you are talking on the phone, and readin the paper, and drinking a coffe, and eating your $1.00 spicy mcchicken, and slapping your kids around for arguing in the back seat, and you have just modified your brake pedle so that instead of activating the brakes it now activates the lockers, you are still ok because you have your rockware bumper, winch and high lift, shovel, axe, and the big ass wrench that you have been looking for since last friday night, (you have blamed your kids for taking your wrench but you forgot to look in the special beer and tool storage compartment under the hood in the cubby hole next to your head lights) up there to protect you. All is well. Besides, it is obviouse that the guy in front of you is driving to slow.
I think that if you run into the guy in front of you because you accidently hit resume on your CC you have more problems than the CC on your vehicle. But I do think that you should make sure that you can get it back to the proper way if you do ever sell it. |
muskyman
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 03:20 pm: |
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why brian if you go to sell it nobody but a LR person would know what that stupid icon on the botton means anyways |
Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 03:25 pm: |
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Muskyman,
Very good point. Disrgaurd my last sentence. |
Brent Fox (Bfox)
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 03:39 pm: |
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Thanks for the input. I've got an extra fog light switch I'll drop in there. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Besides, with the unbridled power of my disco the tires will just break lose and spin if I ever accidently hit the resume button. LOL
Thanks,
Brent |
Bentvictor
| | Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 10:27 pm: |
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Musky,
When I first got my Disco, I pressed that button every time I crossed a bridge... I like the bridge crossing control. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 08:36 am: |
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At least you were able to make out the bridge part of it (its actually the symbol used for the freeway over on "the other side"), I always thought it looked like a picnic table. |
trevor griffiths (Trevorgriffiths)
| | Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 09:37 am: |
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Another option is to remove the ash tray, purchase another two or three switch bezel and add the switches to that side of the center console. |
Marty koning
| | Posted on Sunday, November 17, 2002 - 10:18 pm: |
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I wanted to add more switches also. After a long study of possible locations and to look for a spot that was easily accesible, I decided to mount six switches in that useless cuby hole above the sun visor. I used a piece of 1" brass (mainly for ease of drilling the 11/16 holes), covered the plate with brown vinyl tape to match the interior and was able to fish all the wires down the A pillar behind the cover that houses the speaker. All the relays were mounted under the dash. It was a little bit of work to do all this but the finished product looks very neat and I didn't have to alter the apperance of the dash. I can provide more details and possible some pictures if you like. Just drop me an e-mail. |
Donald
| | Posted on Sunday, November 24, 2002 - 12:04 pm: |
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Craziest suggestion I have ever heard. The cruise control system is just that, a system. And guess what, systems fail. In the case of the cruise control, that does not always mean fail-safe. If it starts kicking in and accelerating the vehicle even in spite of repeated cancelling/braking, I put it to you that an on/off switch for the entire system would suddenly seem really rather valuable.
And no, this is not idle speculation. I had a Freelander loaner which exhibited precisely this behaviour. Given that I was in arguments with the local LR dealer over other more important issues relating to my own vehicle I did not raise this with them. Nor did it happen more than once in the week I had the loaner. Perhaps I misinterpreted my findings, I do not claim I am infallible. However, having the ability to disable the entire cruise system with one simple operation, capable of being executed ASAP, sure felt like a useful feature at the time. |
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