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mongo
Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ok, I'm open for suggestions. My hi-lift doesn't seem to lock the top pin when lowering. It operates like it should on lift. But when I move the lever to lower, then push down on the jack handle to lower, the bottom pin moved out and the top pin didn't engage. At that point, the whole assembly dropped to the ground, along with the whole weight of the vehicle. It pulled me into the truck and almost crushed my hands between the handle and the jack. After a couple of choice words I realized what happened. Any ideas about this? Seems I saw a post awhile back about someone getting seriously injured and I wonder if this is what caused that incident?

Frank
 

muskyman
Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

thats how they kill people

first step is to use choke cleaner and spray the shit outa it

then when its clean you can inspect it to see if the pins and springs are damaged

if so they make a repair kit that will fix it

either way they need to be cleaned and regreased on a very regular basis to keep them from sticking and dropping and becoming dangerous

good luck
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'd go with the repair kit, then be sure to keep it clean and lubed...Glad you're okay! BE CAREFUL!

Also, where do you live? Do you keep it outside of the truck? If you live in areas with lots of precip and crap, be sure to cover it. I only keep mine on the roof on trips/excursions...otherwise it stays inside..
 

Pugsly (Pugsly)
Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I always keep the WD-40 handy. Spray it down just before you start using it.
 

mongo
Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I do keep it clean, and spray it with lube before I use it. I about to rip it apart and see what I find...
 

Kyle
Posted on Thursday, November 21, 2002 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The climbing pics jam regularly. Spray them with lube and work em in and out to free them up..

Kyle
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Same thing happened to mine. The sliver pins which keep everything in line were bent. Go to EE and buy the Fix It kit and replace the moving parts.

I now keep mine lubed with motor oil and only on the vehicle exposed when I go wheeling. Otherwise, it sits in the garage.

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/hilift/

Tom
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My guess would be that your climbing pins got stuck because of dirt and/or corrosion. A lot of people keep the jacks on their trucks all the time, which exposes the unfinished pieces of the Hi-Lift to corrosion. Little bits like the shear pin, climbing pins, springs, etc. were previously left in the white so as not to interfere with the operation of the jack. Companies like Jack-All just paint everythng on the jack to solve the corrosion problems, but is why the Jack-All tends to bind and doesn't operate nearly as smoothly as the Hi-Lift Jack.

Bloomfield Manufacturing has recently done a very good thing by plating all of the little bits and pieces on the Hi-Lift with yellow zinc. It's a little hard to tell in this pic, but take a look:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/sema2002/DSC02001.jpg

You can barely see it but, the little nuts and bolts, the shear pin, the climbing pins, and the handle spring are all yellow zinc plated now.

The Fix-It Kit is also now fitted with yellow zinc-plated pieces:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/sema2002/DSC02003.jpg

With the new bright red powdercoated finish and the yellow zinc plated hardware, I think the current Hi-Lifts are the nicest ones ever.
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Wow. Me likey. You guys have those in yet?

Tom
 

the Big Daddy
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The cross pins holding the climbing pins in place on my Hi-Lift had bent after use . Called Hi-Lift @ 800-233-2051 and explained . They seemed concerned and sent me a fix it kit (FK-1) overnight UPS no charge. They asked me to return the bent cross pins .

Hi Lifts are a necessary evil and must be maintained carefully and used with caution .
My two cents
Evan
 

John Lee
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tom,

We have the jacks in, but not the Fix-It Kits. I waited on the Fix-It Kits so that Bloomfield would run out of the older Fix-It kits first. Then I forgot to reorder the Fix-It Kits. I have to order some more. Turnaround time from Bloomfield is about one week, so we'll have them in soon enough.
 

muskyman
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Hi Lifts are a necessary evil and must be maintained carefully and used with caution .
My two cents
Evan "

wize words evan

my .02

never leave the handle down..never never never
 

Neal Glessner (Nealg)
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A friend of mine saw my hi-lift on my truck and he told me that farmers call them, "widow makers". Has anyone else heard them called this?
 

Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
Posted on Friday, November 22, 2002 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is there an alternative?

I HATE hi-lifts. They are so heavy, they don't work well, and they're dangerous.

But once you've got a little suspension and a bigger tire on there, what else can you use to jack it up?

mainly I hate the weight.

any thoughts?
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If there was an alternative, we would all have it. Hi-lifts work very well. The key is to know how to use it safely. Leave the handle up, never put your self in the path of the handle, and only use necessary force to lift. Maintain the damn thing and don't leave it on your rig when not needed.

Curtis
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

jack, if you use the bottle jack under the axel or floor jack under the axel that works best. i see folks out there using the hi-lift type jack at home and i cant figure out why...

out on the trail, chances are i am using the bottle jack.

main reason i kept a hi-lift on the truck was as a back up for my bottle jack and winch.

but some situations do call for the hi-lift. just make sure what part of the truck you are jacking against isn't going to break.

rd
 

mongo
Posted on Saturday, November 23, 2002 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok I fixed the POS, nothing bent, just dirty, not a lot of rust, just gunked up. What I have been doing is putting a ski binding cover over the lifting mechanism so even though it was exposed, at least it was partially protected. What gets me about this is that the jack operates fine when lifting, it failed when I was lowering the truck. Hopefully this posting will prevent someone from getting killed.
RD: I normally use a floor jack, but I was trying to see where my new tires were rubbing so I needed to move the body...
Curtis:Your right, when I went to lower the truck, I standing to the side of the jack, not leaning over it. I only keep the jack with me when I'm going on the trail or a long trips...When this happened, I just pulled the jack out of the basement.

Frank

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