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John Lee
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.discoweb.org/thurmonddressen/Dscf0044.jpg

This is some pretty X-Treme articulation. Curious how he achieved it though.
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No Shocks?

This will be interesting
 

Ross Thoma (Rossthoma)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Broken Parts????

:) :)
 

R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Anything spelled with "X-" that pertains to Land Rovers should be avoided. Save it for Jeeps and FJ-40's.

Looks like he's asking for trouble; would need new brake lines, etc... to do that, why not get the right shocks too?

http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Am I wrong or is he missing a radius arm....Flex isn't everything. My little XJ will click off over 950 in a 20° ramp and the 30" tires, while helping my score (better "stuffage") give me very little clearance off road.
Ramp
On the Rocks

Learned my lesson on those rocks...a fella with a bit more tire than me walked right through the same line right before...
 

Parrish R. Blackmon (Discoveryfl)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This vehicle may have a "free floating" rear end. Free floating means there are no shocks, radius arms, panhard rods, sway bars, or anything else that may limit axle articulation. This is absolutely not recommended, even for extreme off road use. The axle and drive line can become severely stressed and literally fall out. This is very dangerous.
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

so what keeps everything connected?
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There are simply no shocks in the rear, check out his photo gallery where he explains it. Other than the shocks (and brake lines, I guess..ouch), there is little to limit the rear of the Disco.

Tom
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So I was wrong LOL.http://www.discoweb.org/thurmonddressen/Dscf0049.jpg LOL!
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think its a great idea. You can simply take many things off that hinder the truck. Underneath all of that nice shit is a Jeep... :)

Kyle
 

John Lee
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So how can we max out some more articulation? In this pic, it looks as if the tire is still lifting off the ground:

http://www.discoweb.org/thurmonddressen/Dscf0044.jpg

One thing he might try to get some more articulation is to remove the rubber bushing between the frame ear and the trailing arm. That rubber bushing has limits and also hinders articulation (although not nearly as much as some people claim). Are heim-jointed trailing arms next?
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well , since I am betting the ears are bent now anyway. I would vote for removing the bushings. Hell , what can it hurt.... I am tellin ya , underneath all that perdy Land Rover shit is on kick ass Jeep....

Kyle
 

R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So basically he went through a lot of trouble (and money) to make a dangerous truck that should not be driven on the road. Or at all, since it seems that he is probably destroying his drivetrain by doing this stuff.

Also, check out the photo of it halfway through that crack (at Moab?) Is it just me or is his truck leaning over a lot more than other Discoverys I have seen going over the same crack?
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm with Kyle here, what's the point of removing stuff for better flex if it makes the rig a complete albatross...(er...did I just call my XJ an albatross? I didn't mean to do that...)
Besides, flex all ya want, if your diff is snagged or the x-member, you're still busting out the Hi-lift or the strap...
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

there are many ways to cross the same terrain, lots of the trails at moab that everyone says you need a super flexy rig and and huge tires have been and still are driven by willy's with 4" of travel and 28" tires.

that flex may look cool but a tire gives no traction when its off the ground. if it 2' or 2" dosent matter.

i can almost hear that thing coming down the trail from here,clank bang crunch grind booing

moderation wins in my book
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well , as with most things here. I think the aftermarket targets youth. They are still into "Cool" at all costs... Dude might not be able to afford shocks as he apparently cant afford tires. We were all young once and those of us that have been doing this since we were young did far worse then that...

Kyle
 

RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


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Well , as with most things here. I think the aftermarket targets youth. They are still into "Cool" at all costs... Dude might not be able to afford shocks as he apparently cant afford tires. We were all young once and those of us that have been doing this since we were young did far worse then that...

Kyle




Heh heh...I had an old CJ...no lift and 33x12.5" tires...not much of a frame either....

RJ
 

John Lee
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Agreed. I think that guy's "have list" and "wish list" are both very telling.
 

muskyman
Posted on Monday, November 25, 2002 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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Well , as with most things here. I think the aftermarket targets youth. They are still into "Cool" at all costs... Dude might not be able to afford shocks as he apparently cant afford tires. We were all young once and those of us that have been doing this since we were young did far worse then that...

Kyle


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yes i would be crazy to think I didnt do a million stupid things and i have always wheeled what ever i could afford, so God knows I have wheeled some crappy shit trucks from time to time when the slush fund was flowing into another hobby
 

Bentvictor
Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2002 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Notice that there is no driver in this vehicle. It was simply dropped from a C130 and landed like that.
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Thursday, November 28, 2002 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Interesting picture John.

Component Stress comes to mind.

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