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Eugene Elin (Glex)
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 09:21 am: | 
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how good ore bad it is?where can i buy one?
Thanks
-Gene |
Steve (Steve2)
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 02:11 pm: |
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horrible, worthless, stupid.
any questions?
steve |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 02:18 pm: |
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Check the window..... |
Wes Legaspi (Wes)
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 03:16 pm: |
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http://www.discoweb.org/thewindow/content.htm |
john baker
| | Posted on Friday, November 29, 2002 - 05:51 pm: |
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i have had an air force on my disco for two years. have yet to see anything wrong with the unit. it is just a k and n cone filter with a better flowing intake runner. i have not had any problems with it. its got to flow better than the stock air box with that small intake air horn.hope this helps.oh yeah,purchased from rover accessories in torrance,ca. |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 12:53 am: |
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Depends on the climate you are in, and the kind of driving you do. If you are doing mostly road driving in a dry climate, it might be fine, as long as you don't over-oil it. If you are planning on doing any offroading on muddy trails or anything involving water crossings, stay away. The cone filter will not keep water out as well as the air box does. There also have been instances of the K&N causing the MAF to fail. That happened to me, (Square filter in the box, not a cone, however), after going back to regular paper filters again, no more problems. |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 07:34 am: |
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John,
Take it from me man, water + dust = bad things to your MAF. I ran a K&N for a while and it was great on the street. But when I went to F around in the dusty woods, it was worthless. Stock paper is good.
Paul
'00 Pig |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 08:54 am: |
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oh boy let me open this can of worms, i will agree with most that the air force one is not the thing for the more humid cliamtes that we venture into that said i will go againest the grain by saying that the paper filter is more protective in harsh condition than an oil/cloth fiter such as the K&N just isnt going to fly. if not overly oiled as Axel has mentioned the K&N will provide more water and dust repelling than paper. if not allowed to drain and soak as indicated in the instructions oil can be drawn into your intake system. i have a rather extensive experence with motorcycles equipped with the K&N and used them in condition equal to the most radical enviorments that any dual track vehicle has seen and if it not for the extra barrier of protection provided by the oiled filter i would have had to walk out more than i did have to. to test this theroy take both filter pour a couple of gallons of water over them and judge the results. paper and water do not mix......nor does water and oil one will repell the other will absorb, you know where this is going. now i have read that with the LR the paper filter performs better with our engines as it realtes to fuel mileage but i didnt buy my Disco for the mileage. thats my 2 cents on the matter.
mike w |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 10:08 am: |
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Mike, FWIW. I've also used K&N on motorcycles with good experiences. And in really dusty or wet areas nothing will beat a good oiled foam filter but I've also seen real data to show why a K&N shouldn't be used on track vehicles because of the mount of particles it passed. It appears one way a K&N will let your engine breath better is with a more porous medium. Most of the motorcycles I ran the K&N's were simple 2cycle dirtbikes but I wouldn't run the K&N's on a track vehicle or an off road vehicle with a more complex engine. Also, a standard paper filter is much cheaper to replace than a K&N should either get wet. But for anyone who likes to run K&N's and it makes you feel better then I'm not saying stop using it. |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 10:14 am: |
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and don't forget the filter just hanging out in the HOT engine bay is only sucking in HOT air. not helping your supposidly HP gain. if anything it is just sounding more powerful. haha.
but that cool chrome tubing does look pretty sweet.  |
RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 10:31 am: |
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Okay, we've been doing this K&N battle on the Jeeps Unlimited board for years as well...here are some of the links if you're interested...
K&N Thread1
K&N 2
There are just 2 of the hundreds....
RJ |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 11:52 am: |
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Quote:...i will go againest the grain by saying that the paper filter is more protective in harsh condition than an oil/cloth fiter such as the K&N just isnt going to fly.
Let's not forget that the original question was about the Air Force One, i.e the open cone filter. That setup will not keep water out as well as the airbox will, regardless of if the airbox has a paper or K&N filter in it. |
RJ Clayton (Tozovr)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 12:28 pm: |
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Axel, you are correct...I should have elaborated as well, the Threads I provided also get rather indepth as to the whole Open Element filter situation in the hot underhood area...
Cheers!
RJ |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 04:31 pm: |
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my apology to you Axel, i read it wrong, but in all honesty unless he has the filter underwater the oil laced filter will still provide more protection than a plain paper filter regardless of what container it is kept in.
mike w |
Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 05:15 pm: |
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The jury is still out on paper vs. oiled. Personally I am sticking with paper, others may do what they wish. However, for any kind of water crossing, the stock airbox whether it has a paper or oiled filter will provide superior protection over the open airforce one.
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M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 07:39 pm: |
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it is kinda purty tho!
mike w |
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