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johnbaker
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 08:14 pm: | 
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i have a 95 disco with 3 inch lift.i have a set of 4.11 diffs on way from great basin rover.the truck is used for mild off road,and also to pull a pop up camper.i am thinking of either 235/85 16 or 255/85 16 mounted on steel wheels,stock disco or nato.any help with the pros or cons would be greatly appreciated.thanks. |
trevor griffiths (Trevorgriffiths)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 09:55 pm: |
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I found with the 235/85, Ilost some power on road with the stock gearing. I wonder if the 235/'s would be undertired for the 4.11 gearing?
A 255 is about a 33"? |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2002 - 11:02 pm: |
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If I had 3 inches of lift and 4.11 gears I would get the 255/85s |
Ned Connolly (Roverned)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 06:19 pm: |
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I'd say the 255s would be better suited for that gearing. Maybe email Ho Chung directly as he's done a million tire combos.
One thing to consider, with those tires will probably come some rubbing issues on full stuff upfront in the back of the wheelwell. I'd invest in RTE radius arms or something similar to push the axle as far into the center of the wheelwell as possible.
Then again, with a 3" lift, maybe you've already got this area covered. |
johnbaker
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 07:21 pm: |
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after owning this truck for 3 years with hd rover springs i have ordered rte arms,springs,etc.this is project time and i am seeking advice from those who have gone before.thanks for the info.i'm still listening. |
Kyle
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 07:27 pm: |
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The 235 is a nice tire all around. It steers well and they have some decent height. The 265 is a bit more sloppy on the road but gives a softer ride , its also about the same height as the 235. If 235 is where you are going I would consider the 2" springs. All around I think you will b happier... 255?? Gears wont be as evident and they are sloppy on road as well.
With the 235 you are still undergeared some and its just about perfect.
Kyle |
max garcia
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2002 - 11:17 pm: |
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John
I have a 2" lift with stock diffs ( 4.11 just arivied from GBR) and 235/85. I had to do some trimming and have little troubles running them. One rubs on the front part of the left rearwell.
Hope this helps max |
James Gall (Jimmyg)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 01:43 am: |
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I have 3inches of lift with RTE springs, front radius arms, rear links, cones, etc. You will still have to trim with the 255/85 but they could fit as long as you stay with the stock size rim. If you go to an offset rim like GCR, they will not fit and you will chew your tires to hell. Gearing is perfect for that size (4.11).
Ned,
"One thing to consider, with those tires will probably come some rubbing issues on full stuff upfront in the back of the wheelwell. I'd invest in RTE radius arms or something similar to push the axle as far into the center of the wheelwell as possible."
I disagree. You will get more rubbing with the RTE radius arms than stock radius arms when you turn since they are slightly wider! Talk to John at Rovertym and he will tell you in depth, what problems you will run into.
I run 265/75 and the tires feel much better than the previous 245/70 I was running. Granted, some power is lost. |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 06:24 pm: |
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235/85 is perfect gearing for the 4.11
255/85 is too tall for the 4.11s |
Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 07:29 pm: |
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with 3 inch and 4.11, i would go with 255.
James...#1)you will not chew your tires to hell if you do just a little trimming..I have wheels from GCR(the brand is american racing..not GCR) and 235s and dont rub at all now. I trimmed a little more in the rear than most, but not too much. I also had a little rubbing in the front, so i had to shave a little bit off of the back of the front wheel well.
#2) When ned said to get RTE front arms, he was talking about moving the front axle forward so the tires wont rub on the wheel well. True, they will rub more on the radius arm, but thats not what Ned was addressing.
FWIW...i have RTE front links that are about 3/4 inch longer than stock( i think thats the length..dont really remmeber now). But, with the american racing rims, i still have some rubbing.
Thanks,
Will |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 07:40 pm: |
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will, ditch those skechers wheels.  |
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 08:07 pm: |
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nothing wrong with them wagon wheels!
peter |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 08:47 pm: |
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If you are buying new rims for sure, I would do the 15x7 GCR's. Wider stance & less rubbing on radius arms. Then, get yourself some 33x12.5's and spend a lot more cash and hack to make them fit.
Don't listen to Ho, he just regrets selling his spacers and dealing with bicycle tires and less turning radius.
Seriously, though, there are LOTS of factors to consider when it comes to picking tires, one of the biggest ones being how deep your pockets are. To address your comparison, I would do the 255's, since you will have enough gearing for them. I think you will be dissapointed with the 235's and want to upgrade later, anyway.
Tom |
nadim
| | Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 12:01 am: |
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Preaching words of Wisdom Tom!
Hack hack hack...get 33+ |
mike e
| | Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 02:57 pm: |
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I've got a six inch lift with the 235/85's. If I switched to the american racing wheels would I have to trim? And how much of a differance would the wheels have on my trck width? |
justin
| | Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2002 - 03:20 pm: |
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Nevermind my buddy mike answered that!!!!!!!! |
Mel A. (Krawlrovr)
| | Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 11:29 am: |
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I thought 255/85's needed 4 inches of lift? Do you think I can fit 255/85's with AR steelies and 3 inches of lift? |
James Gall (Jimmyg)
| | Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 04:33 pm: |
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Will,
I know who makes the wheels from GCR, I have them. Second, the rubbing I was referring to was with the 255/85 and not 235/85. Mel is correct, with the AR wheels, 3inch lift, and 255/85 tires...you will chew them up. When I switch to 4 inch lift, I will give the 255/85 a shot. I have already trimmed a lot trying to fit 265/75 when I had 2 inches of lift. |
Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
| | Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 04:50 pm: |
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james...IF YOU DONT TRIM, yea you will chew them up...but you can trim some and not chew htem up...
look at tom pearson for example. He has AR wheels, and 33x12.50s....these are same height and MUCH wider than 255s. He's trimmed a little in front and back, and moved his rear axle back...and his swampers arent "chewed up" |
James Gall (Jimmyg)
| | Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 05:46 pm: |
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What lift does Tom Pearson have? I can't tell from his photos. |
Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
| | Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 06:49 am: |
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3inch |
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