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Greg French (Gregfrench)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 02:52 pm: | 
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I have been looking at the 4-door, 4wd with TRD. Anybody got one or know about them?
Good or bad points?
How are they off road?
Thanks,
Greg |
an
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 03:14 pm: |
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hello,
this is discoweb not toyotaweb
i think you are on the wrong site - |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 03:29 pm: |
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Think Greg knows that and has (assuming he still does) a Disco 1.
"TRD Off-Road Package -- includes off-road-tuned suspension with Bilstein®3 high-pressure gas shocks and progressive-rate springs, P265/70R16 BFGoodrich tires on 16" 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels,6 locking rear differential,2 black fender flares6, 7 and TRD graphics"
at least it has a locking rear diff available.
probably a decent p\u truck if you like Jap stuff.
Jaime |
Alan Yim (Alan)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 03:34 pm: |
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Greg - I see a lot of them around here and they seem to handle themselves fine. They run forever. The only real thing I notice is that they tend to lose their back ends sometimes on steeper stuff because it's so light. But other than that, they seem to get through everything I've seen them on. |
Dave Smith (Javelinadave)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 04:03 pm: |
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I traded in my Tacoma TRD for my Disco II. It was a very good, very well built, reliable truck, I would never bad mouth any Toyota products. I have owned 5 Toyotas over the years.
With that said, it is a truck. If you need to do truck things, that is what I would buy. If you want to do Disco things, the Tacoma can't touch it. Pickups are light in the rear and more apt to slide around in snow or in wet slick conditions.
Bottem line, it all up to you. One word of caution about most any 4 door truck. If the back seat does not have head rests, your passangers heads will go thru the back window in a rear end collision. Just some food for thought. |
Ross Thoma (Rossthoma)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 04:24 pm: |
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They are a great back road full of washboard truck. IFS up front and the rear sus is on the light side wich makes it soak up the bumps damn nice. The ass end hangs out a bit more than it should so it can get banged up a bit. My friend I used to work with is on his second one doing seismic geophysical surveying.
The box is not very deep and you can't pile stuff in as good, and where I could go virtualy anywhere with my Ranger + quad in box he towed a trailer and worked off the quad (the sus couldn't take the quad in uneven terrain.
The locking dif is nice but unless the truck is modefied it will only be used to get unstuck.
FWIW
Ross Thoma |
Steve (Steve2)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 05:21 pm: |
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uh - james the war ended, oh fifty plus years ago.... maybe you could ad the 'anese' on the end of the word when referring to the 'japanese'...
it would make me feel real warm and fuzzy inside if you did.
thanks
steve |
Greg French (Gregfrench)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 05:29 pm: |
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Thanks, all. I don't want to get rid of the Disco, but I need something that can do "truck stuff"
I just didn't want to give up doing the off road stuff, too. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 05:33 pm: |
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jamie lived over there for a while... i'm sure he is aware of his asian linguistic faux pas. i'm betting it might even be deliberate.
rd |
Alan Yim (Alan)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 05:34 pm: |
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Hey Greg,
Have you looked at the Toyota Tundra's?? They're a bit bigger, bigger engine and deeper bed as far as I know, and still have 4WD. That might be an even better alternative. The Tacoma's are quite expensive for what you get...I think anyways. |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 06:05 pm: |
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A friend of mine has a Tacoma and the bed isn't made very well. It dents and deforms if you haul heavy loads in it. He has dents in the bottom of the bed from carting his street bike around in the back of it. It's also a little twisted from the street bike but, more so from carting his dirt bike to the trail head.. Runs great, but the bed isn't very well built. |
Greg French (Gregfrench)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 06:24 pm: |
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Alan...
I looked at them, and was suprised to find that I couldn't even fit in the back seat! The Tacoma has more room in the rear seats than my Disco, according to my daughter.
That would be a factor.
Also, the Tundra looks like it would be too big for the trails. I don't really like the wheelbase of the Tacoma, but I guess I can't have everything.
If only Land Rover would make a 4-door pickup! |
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 06:34 pm: |
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Hey Greg, my boss has a '99 Tacoma xtra cab 4X4. It has about 185k on it and he hasn't done much of anything to it mechanically besides oil changes and the belt around 100k. We do seismic monitoring for rock quarries and construction activities, so it gets offroad quite a bit. I've been with him through some stuff that I would have probably avoided until I saw really how well that little truck performs. He doesn't have the locking rear diff either. Anyhow, if I wanted a truck, that is what I would own. Later.. Robert |
Alen
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 07:16 pm: |
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Greg, for offroading they can keep up with a D2 if not surpass in performance with the TRD package.
Alen |
Andrew Clarke (Aclarke)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 07:42 pm: |
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Bummer, I can't remember where the article was but a couple years ago one of the magazines/web sites had some "best off-road vehicle in the US" shootout and the Toyota Tacoma won over the D2, Hummer, etc. They seemed to think they were the best vehicle available for most off-road tasks. Regardless of whether that's true, I'm sure that it will do just fine. |
Alan Yim (Alan)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 08:15 pm: |
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The only real knock I have against Toyota's is that their bodies never last. Those things rust like crazy. My first car was a Corolla and you could open the trunk and see right through to the road underneath. The mechanic said that the engine has got another 10 years left in it but the body won't last another 5 and this was already when the car was at 10 years old.
I'm surprised to hear that the backseat space is so small on the Tundras. The look like a fair size truck. But then again, I don't have any kids so I don't have to think about that one little aspect.
I guess if you wait long enough, Ford will probably have a 4 door LR pickup... |
Tripp Westbrook (Tripp)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 08:46 pm: |
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I bet this would work pretty well.
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Brian Dickens (Bri)
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 09:59 pm: |
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Sweet rig. |
Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:33 am: |
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I live with both a Tacoma and a Tundra (both black of course).
The tacoma is the best pick up in the world. The tundra is NOT its little brother.
If you just want an all around great tough pickup the Tacoma is it. Unbreakable and goes like hell. If you want a dumbtruck or a bus, it is not your vehicle. The one I live with started life as an all-arounder and then moved on to dedicated pre-runner with 18" of front wheel travel.
The tundra is big but that's it. It gets stuck in everything and is super low. It's hard to modify and the TRD package is a rip off.
I live with three different Toy pick ups so if you have some more specific answers I can get them answered.
Between my friends Tacoma and my Disco, we feel ready for any offroad occasion. |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 08:15 am: |
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that thing eclispes that silly liberty in the background. damn that is some serious ground clearence! |
Marc Ingham (Marcingham)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 08:36 am: |
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What is the going rate for a loaded Brute? I checked the website, but it says price coming soon. Anyone know? That thing is sweet. |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 08:58 am: |
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Hey Steve(Steve2),
Perhaps someone should let the Nihonjin (Japanese) know this obscure fact regarding the war. As RD mentioned, we happened to live there for 5 years. I would like to see you ride the Shinkansen train to Hiroshima and be the only gaijin (foreigner)plus being an American on it.
Let me know about the "war" after your little ride.
Until then - fuck off.
Jaime |
todd slater (Toddslater)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 02:56 pm: |
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Alan,
I think they got the bed rust problem fixed in the mid 90's. The cabs were never a rust problem. |
Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 02:58 pm: |
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I was looking at the Tacoma cause rovers were $$ for me to maintain since I am in school. I had wanted to get a Disco but could not find one that I liked. I looked alot into the Tacomas. You can get as much dtuff for them from ARB as you can for a Disco, bumpers,locker, OME supensions. they are tough trucks I know people that have owned them and abused them and still drive them. I like the Tacomas alot. TRD and v6 5speed. AS to getting one a Tacoma, well I ended up having to get a D-90.....
good resources..
www.wheelersoffroad.com
www.allprooffroad.com |
Ross Thoma (Rossthoma)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 03:39 pm: |
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"Greg, for offroading they can keep up with a D2 if not surpass in performance with the TRD package. "
I just can't see it the light back end will slip and slide not so on the DII.
The Tundra han that nice purdy cable running along the back of the rear axel. I just can't belive that Toyota did that to a "work truck" that thing is just begging to be ripped off, I just can't get past it kike leaf springs below the axel.
RT |
Greg French (Gregfrench)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 04:17 pm: |
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Thanks.
I'm not getting one until my Disco sells, so I'll probably have my Disco forever. |
Steve (Steve2)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 05:20 pm: |
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jaime
i am half japanese. i was born in japan. i have been on the recieving end of racism all my life from all sides. direct and indirect. my mother lived in tokyo during the war surviving on insects and hiding in shelters during the bombings, my father served in the u.s. army on the opposite side.
all i asked was for some courtesey - any obviously your hatred runs so deep that you cannot experience compasion on any level.
i am sorry that you are a racist. i am sorry that you don't know me, or were with me when i 1st came to this country was spat on by two white guys while waiting for the bus yelling "fucking nips!"
have a really nice day, and happiest of holidays to you and your family.
steve |
James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 05:50 pm: |
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steve,
no I don't know you just as you don't know me. and while I can sympathize with your past, I also know what we experienced living in Nihon.
racist and hatred are too strong of words for my general feeling regarding the Japanese. however, as the saying goes "what goes around comes around." if it is at all possible, I would never buy anything that was made in Nihon. possibly you need to revisit your homeland and become reacquainted with the current attitudes being expressed to American "gaijins". you do understand the connotation of the word don't you?
just as a side note, we had to explain to our Nihonjin neighbor that Japan actually attacked the US first unlike what she was taught in school. this was in 1998.
this is my last post on this topic
Jaime |
Titus
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 05:54 pm: |
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yea I'd agree with Steve, just because you endured some bad treatment on a train somewhere else doesn't mean that you should bring that kinda resentment back home (to U.S of A or anywhere else for that matter). if you truly want to make a change you can start by leaving those resentment out of a msg board for OFFROADING DISCOVERIES AND LAND ROVERS!!!
on the other hand Steve, I don't think Jamie's an actual racist like the two worst examples you met at the bus stop. sometimes not all people are aware of what terms are derogatory if they are so common. I've heard the term Jap used a few times that the people honestly didn't know it was offensive and just used it as an abbreivation (yes I know it's not an excuse but the intention to offend wasn't there).
so.. let's just all cool it and get back to the TRUCKS instead of the countries that make them. |
Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 06:10 pm: |
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on the other hand, all these fucking russians... |
Todd W. McLain (Ganryu)
| | Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 11:13 pm: |
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Titus,
Sometimes I think the country that makes them is somewhat of a factor in the truck itself. I'm not sure if the U.S. model Tacoma's come from a stateside or Japanese plant, but I would almost bet it's stateside. I have several friends Japanese models who traded in their aging SR5's and are having nothing but problems with the new trucks. Perhaps stateside quality control is better? If so, maybe Land Rover should open up a second plant stateside! I'm sure Ford could give them space on one of their closed assembly lines.
I'm also surprised to see the 4-door models in the states .... they've been producing them here since the early 80's, but I had yet to see one in the states.
Jaime,
Perhaps you were in Japan during a time period when reations between the Japanese and the U.S. military were bad and the persons you speak of equated you to being with the military? MCAS Iwakuni is around the corner from Hiroshima and some years (96 comes to mind) have been very bad years for relations. Or perhaps your allowing 1 or 2 bad experiences cloud you jundgement? |
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