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Jesse Lessard (Jlessard)
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had one person tell me its called a alpine window but I�m not to sure...
Anyway one of them on my 96 Disco with rear ac seams to be permanently foggy looking.
Its been like this since I got the vehicle not to long ago. for some reason there is a second pane on the drivers side but not on the passenger side. Is their a reason for this? or can I just take out the extra plastic window thing and solve the problem?
 

Jesse Lessard (Jlessard)
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

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Chris Marcel (Gumarcel)
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn mine is the other way around!
 

Brian Friend (Brianfriend)
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jesse,

Do you have rear a.c.? I THINK that that is how the ac is channeled to the rear vents. Give it a real good look before you take out that inner plastic.
 

Don Collins (Donc)
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jesse, that window you have is for the rear A/C (double pane). You can drop the tan plastic and the headliner to be able to wipe down the window and clean it up. I did mine and 6 months later it was dirty again.
 

Jesse Lessard (Jlessard)
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, thanks guys.

I'll try and take the headliner down and clean it up. I don�t rely use the rear A/C much, so I�ll see how long it stays clean.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

is the rear ac air channelled through the airspace between the panes? if yes, then wouldn't blowing the rear ac for a few minutes dry it out? just a thought...
 

Jesse Lessard (Jlessard)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

well I took the headliner down and it is a nice thick coating of dust that makes it look foggy.

Unfortunately after I took the plastic pane down and cleaned it, I discovered yet another plastic pane.
This other plastic pane is riveted in place and I can see no way of removing it. It has quite allot of dust trapped in-between it and the glass.


maybe I�m just stuck with a permanently dirty window...
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Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have the same problem - lots of dust between the outer (glass) and inner (plastic) windows on the driver's side. How difficult is it to remove the outside alpine glass? Is the rubber boot adhered into place or just kinda wedged in there?

It is also raining here in California and now I'm getting a really musty smell when I run the AC to defrost the cabin - am I growing some killer mold in my vents now and has anyone cleaned out the HVAC system?

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Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually would not be a bad idea to run a quick air sample inside your truck to see what you're breathing. Could be Stachybotrys, which is one bad fungus. But it's probably just good old Penicilliem/Aspergillus. I could send you an air sampling cassette and all you'd have to do is draw air through cassette at 15 liters per minute for 10 minutes. Then the lab boys count spores under the microscope.

You should be able to drop out the alpines just like the rear cargo side glass. I've never done it, but I think that the glass is just "floating" in the seal...
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That Stachybotrys is the homeowner's insurance stuff right? If it is, that is some scary s***. My uncle had a very difficult time selling his [luxury] Austin home this year because it had a burst pipe at one point in its history - causing the buyer's escrow to fall through because no one wanted to insure the place.

Hear tell that Stachys can quickly put you in the hospital or worse.

So has anyone cleaned out their vent system? I'd kinda like to disinfect the whole lot.

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Jason Johnson (Discomojo)
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had some foul smelling air coming out of my vents for weeks after I went to Uwharrie. I cleaned out the intake "filters" - I use that term loosely. The disco I's only have the sponge like material in the cowling while the RR and I think even DII's have a pollen filter.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

fire up the ventilation system and spray lysol in the cowling filter.
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a 95 - is the cowling that long strip of spongy material just below the windshield? Blue, do you have a picture of the filter in question?

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Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yes

and no
 

shawn peterson
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought the CDC recently said that stachybotrys should be treated the same as other common molds, and not to believe the hype
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Blue,

That 1/2" x 8" really porous stuff - how does that keep anything but bees and leaves from coming through the ventilation? Isn't there something in the line more like the engine air filter?

Anyway, I removed all these strips of sponge / foam material, cleaned thoroughly and replaced - thanks!

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Prescottj (Prescottj)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I had the same problem and after dealing with it for so long I just tinted the damn windows
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought the CDC recently said that stachybotrys should be treated the same as other common molds, and not to believe the hype

True, to a certain extent...

From CDC:
"Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) and other molds may cause health symptoms that are nonspecific. At present there is no test that proves an association between Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) and particular health symptoms. Individuals with persistent symptoms should see their physician. However, if Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) or other molds are found in a building, prudent practice recommends that they be removed. Use the simplest and most expedient method that properly and safely removes mold."

see also
http://www.cdc.gov/epo/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4909a3.htm

I've got a roll-off full of building materials contaminated with stachy & other molds sitting on a jobsite right now. Wanna come take a wiff?
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Erik,

I've never really explored my 96 Disco's cabin air filtration system, but I've always planned on replacing that black spongy filter with a HEPA filter cut to size. I really don't know what other filter mechanisms are in the system. Does anybody else know?

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