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Dammad (Dammad)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My 2000 DS2 rolls forward noticably (a inch) when you release the foot brake after putting the auto transmission in park and apply the hand/parking brake?

Seems to do this everytime I park somewhere..

The hand/parking brake appears to hold fine.

Is this kind of 'lurch' normal for Discos?

PS: I'm normally a stick shift driver, so this may just be an auto thing. But rental cars never seem to do this.
 

Michael Noe (Noee)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pretty normal on a D2 at least. Have you seen the "preferred" procedure for securing the car?

Come to a normal stop
While holding the brake, engage the parking brake
Release the standard brake
MOve AT to Park

Helps relieve stress on the AT I think.
 

Kirk Thibault (Kirkt)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This is pretty normal. Especially if you park on a hill you will find this lurching if you move the AT to P, then let your foot off of the brake pedal (lurch!) and then apply the parking brake That lurching forward prior to applying the parking brake loads up the AT.

Remember that the parking brake on a LR brakes the drum on the transmission not the rear brakes. Get in the habit of braking with your foot to a stop, put the AT in N, apply the parking brake, let your foot off of the brake pedal and then put the AT in P. The lurch will still occur, but now the load is taken by the parking brake, not the AT itself. Like Michael said, this will prevent strain on the transmission and will minimize the dreaded "pop" that you can get when you subsequently try to move the AT out of P. Especially important off-road on steep grades.

kirk
 

Mahn England
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

As Kirk says the handbrake operates a drum brake on the rear driveshaft. This works well in offroad situations for those of us with lockable CDLs as the stationary braking load is shared via the braked drive train by four wheels rather than just the rears. The down side is that you can't do handbrake turns or use the handbrake to stop the truck whilst moving for risk of damaging the drive train. The manual transmission also displays the lurching phenomenon under certain conditions.

Mahn
 

Dammad (Dammad)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I see. It had never occured to me that the parking brake might not apply to the wheels. Makes sense for a 4x4 though..

Cheers.
 

Kirk Thibault (Kirkt)
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Definitely no rally style e-brake turns....
 

muskyman
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

please guys dont over complicate the process of putting your truck in park.

if it rocks back and forth a inch for a second it aint gonna hurt anything
 

Barry
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dammad,

I'm with Michael on the parking brake procedure...as recommended to me by the LR folks.
Your Rover will still roll forward/back a bit before you select "P".

If you ever park on a street/trail with any amount of slope, the loud (less than healthy sounding) transmission CLUNK you normally get shifting into "D" is avoided.

Seemed excessive at first, but has become routine.
Plus, you will always be aware of the hand brake being within factory specs...two to three clicks.

-Barry
 

BW
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dammad,

The hand brake will hold fine in most situations. However, I found that unless you have your CDL engaged, your ETC D2 will roll away regardless of shifter position or hand brake position in "extreme" articulation positions.

I learned this the scary way.

BW
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Parking brake...what's that? These things have parking brakes?!!?? :)
 

Tom V (Cozmo)
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes Alan its that handle just behind the shift lever,and you thought that was just another place to attach one of those little plastic trash bags.

Ive driven both AT and standard all AT vehicles will roll an bit when you put them in park esp. on a hill. If its a real problem move down here its flat flat flat.

Tom

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