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Author Message   elr Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 11:19 am:    after my 30000 mile service, i noticed grease accumulating on all four of the rims. anyone know if they routinely grease the wheels and if so would excess accumulate on the rims. it seems ulikely i would have leaking seals on all 4 wheels.the vehicle is a 2000 discoii.   Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:28 pm:    Elr, Your seals appear to going or is what your seeing brake dust? If it is wet and greasy the seals are going fast it will ruin your brake pads. The inner ones will get soaked and you should smell a burnt oil aroud the wheel. A concern with 30K on a DII this should not happen untill around 60K. Were the rotors changed if so the seals should have been changed? Let me know if I can help Dee Cantrell   Anonymous Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 01:32 pm:    Yeah let him know he can sell you something. Is everyone else as sick and tired of seeing this guy whoring himself out like this on this board?   eburrows Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:07 pm:    Dee Cantrell was very well chastised a few days ago, but someone much more articulate than you, Anon. Dee, I carry some of the same sentiment of the above poster, but I think this last post of yours was FAR less obtrusive than others of the past. Thanks.   Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:12 pm:    Annon, eburrows It might be hard for you to believe I was not trying to sell him, I thought the purpose of this TECH section is to offer advice and help. Not sit around and ridiclue and critize.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:15 pm:    Chastised ? I thought I was the only one that did that ?? Damn..... play nice now.... Kyle   Anonymous Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:19 pm:    Dee-speak: "Let me know if I can help." Translation to English: "You need some new seals. I sell seals. Contact me." Yeah the purpose of this tech section is to offer advice and help. It's not for vendors like yourself to whore yourself out to people and sell stuff. Your the only vendor who does this.   Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:25 pm:    Lets stop the personal attacks ""Whore"" As far as translation to english did your parents mane you Anonymous or you just forgot how to spell your name...   Anonymous Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 02:36 pm:    So your only response is about my anonymity? Don't you have a response about how your the only vendor who whores themselves out on this board? "email me I'm Dee Cantrell." I don't know how many times I've seen that on this board. If you limit your posts to tech advice and stop acting like a whore then people won't call you whore.   JRoc Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 03:17 pm:    EBurrows and anon, I read, then reread, Mr. Cantrell's post to see what you guys found sooo offensive about it. I agree with you in that he could hold off on the advertising of his service a bit, but I also appreciate his service. I haven't bought anything from him personally, but I have used Discount Rovers (Nathan). The service they provide is excellent, and very much appreciated by alot of people on this board. They provide genuine parts at impossible to beat prices, and without them we'd be forced to pay more. As I said before I don't think Mr. Cantrell needs to use this board to advertise quite as much as he does, and if he didn't I think he'd be pleasantly surprised to see all the people who'd recommend Nathan and Him. If either of you feel differently, and I feel you have a right to, I'd be nice if you expressed it in a tactful way. Mr. Cantrell may be overzealous in his quest for more business but he's just trying to make a living. We can all relate to that! And Mr. Burrows should be commended on both his tact and his decision to use his name with his post. This is not easy sometimes and is both admirable and respected. I was raised that if you can't put your name on the job you do, or the statements you make, then you should not do/make them. Sincerely, John(JRoc)Roche   John C. Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 03:40 pm:    Funny thing, Mr. Cantrell sent me a $100 (used) part for free. I had never ordered from him before he sent me the part nor did I know him. He has also helped me a few times with some tech issues and has never once offered to sell me an item. Back off guys. John C.   elr Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 03:45 pm:    but we digress.... back to the issue at hand. i thought it was very unlikely that all four seals would start to leak at exactly the same time with so few miles. am i wrong on this?   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 03:50 pm:    very odd coincidence that all four would leak at once. What did they "lube" at all 4 wheels for your 30k service??? Also, is it dark, heavy grease, or lighter fluid (brake fluid?)   John C. Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 03:52 pm:    Elr, what you need to do is clean the grease off all four tires. Then drive it around for a few days and see if any grease has splattered onto the tires. It is rare that all four seals are bad, but then again I don't know what they do at the 30K service. I guess they repack the wheel bearings.... maybe the left some excess grease on all four tires so that you would panic and bring it back to them....I know they would do that here in NY. Clean it, drive it and let us know.   elr Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:04 pm:    Dark heavy appearing grease - not on the tires but on the openings in the rims. i'll clean them off and see if it comes back. thanks.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:06 pm:    IMHO, they probably overfilled it, and it's slinging out. I concur, clean it off, and keep an eye on it to make sure that it's not going to grenade on you.... FWIW... -L   Bill Bettridge (Billb) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:13 pm:    Are you sure it is grease? I know that when my truck was still under warranty I had to tell the dealer NOT to put that tire shine crap on because it got all over the rims and then the brake dust would stick and I'd end up with black sludge all over the rims Check this first Bill   elr Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:17 pm:    Dark heavy appearing grease - not on the tires but on the openings in the rims. i'll clean them off and see if it comes back. thanks.   elr Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:19 pm:    what is IMHO? sorry i posted my second message twice by accident   Will Roeder (Will_Roeder) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:20 pm:    Altough i have never ordered anything from him, Dee seems like a great guy, and i appreciate his knowledge and the help that he offers. In this post, he was not pushing his product, he just said he could help him and get him what he needs, this is fine for this board, help is what it is here for. Maybe someday you will need a part and the only person to get it from is Nathan or Dee, and i am sure either one of them would help you, although you have shown Dee no respect.   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:24 pm:    IMHO = In My Honest Opinion FWIW = For What Its Worth -L   JRoc Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:27 pm:    I think I'd be great if they included a section on this board about Abbreviations. I often find myself wondering what the hell certain abbreviations are! I don't know what half of them are.   Moe (Moe) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:28 pm:    elr, are you sure your half shafts are bolted in tight? If you have alloys, you will have to remove the wheel to check the 5 bolts. If they are loose, it should be obvious and shit will be leaking out. Anon-speak "stop acting like a whore then people won't call you whore" English Translation: "I can't even get a whore to sleep with me"   elr Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:29 pm:    IMHO of course!!!! so leslie, what would our friends at landrover have overfilled?   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:34 pm:    Along Moe's lines... If they didn't properly torque down the end-member bolts and overfilled the hubs, then you could have grease getting slung. Shoot, you could have grease from elsewhere getting slung for that matter.... but, that wouldn't be as likely to happen at BOTH axles at the same time.... I've gotten to where I think that they know as little as I do, so I do it myself.... lol.... (lol, laughing out loud, ) -L   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 04:51 pm:    do they repack bearings as part of 30k serv on a DII?   Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 05:00 pm:    To all who posted to save my virtue many thanks. Annon, I am not a whore I give most away for free or close to it. elr, The offer for help was genuine. I have done too many brake jobs on RR and Discos to count. If I can help you technically or save you some money well then I guess I can be called a whore Dee   Mike J. (Mudd) Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 05:11 pm:    I like whores!   John C. Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 06:20 pm:    Yeah, whores are our friends!!!! It seems strange that both axles would leak .... it's gotta be some excess grease ... but what do they grease externally on the end of the axles? By any chance could it be brake fluid? I'm just curious...   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:56 am:    does your hub look at all like this: makes a mess of the wheel on the outside for sure. i have the damn parts, just have not gotten around to doing this project. garrett (whoreless since '71)   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:14 am:    Sounds like you might need a copy of "I Wanna Be a Ho" by Velvet Jones or, if you're into the business side of things, pick up "I Wanna Drive a Pink Cadillac, Wear Diamond Rings, and Kick Women in the Butt" by the same author.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:24 am:    who doesn't wanna be a Ho.........Ho Chung that.   Moe (Moe) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:31 am:    Garret, that front hub appears to only be missing its rubber boot. Throw the new one on! That could be elr's problem for the front end but the rear is a little different and might be leaking from between the flange and the hub.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:45 am:    actually i do have it. i was just taking the pic with it off. it was loose, so i snapped it back on and it does not spray 'muck' everywhere. 2nd time i have had to do that. but i have a new bearing race just in case.   elr Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:08 am:    cruised by the dealer to let him take a look. unfortunately i had already cleaned the rims last evening. he said he saw no leaks or grease but did not pull the wheels! would he have seen anything from underneath if hubs were spraying excess grease. thanks all for your posts!   John C. Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:23 am:    Yes he would. Unless of course you live next door to the dealer and only drove the Rover a few hundred feet (which I doubt)....   Jarrod C. Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 01:20 pm:    I found out that both my rear brakes are wet, and I think its some type of grease. I've checked the brake fluid and it looks good - so I'm guessing the leak isn't from there, but if its not there, where else should I be checking? I also have this burining grease/oil/some-type-of-fluid smell from the brakes.   Mr Hadthesame Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 05:24 pm:    Swivel hubs!   Jarrod C. Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 08:50 pm:    Swivel hubs? I thought those were in the front only? What type of seal do I have to replace and how hard is it? I'm assuming I have to take the rear rotors off to get to them.   Leif R. (Leif) Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 09:05 pm:    Aren't there significant differences in the hubs/axels/swivels in a DII from a DI? Do the semi-floating axels have the exposed flange with the five bolts?   Ron Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2002 - 09:29 pm:    "or save you some money well then I guess I can be called a whore" So not only are you a whore but you are a cheap whore! tongue firmly in cheek Let Dee slide. He is not going to sell the guy seals as he is still under warantee. Ron