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Randall Smith
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Every year we go o the Christmas parade in Blowing Rock NC. When the Ford Models Ts go by my wife always says "why don't you get an old car like that?" So I'm thinking maybe it's not such a bad idea.

The Model T has much better approach and departure angles. It also has some really tall skinny tires which would be good for finding solid gound on muddy roads. The suspension looks really interesting, like it would have twice as much travel as a regular leaf spring.

However the Disco probably has more power. And you can get an extended warrantee for the later models. I think there are a lot more aftermarket stuff available for the Disco.

Please help me make a decision!
Randall
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Much fewer parts on the T and less electronics to fail. You won't have to worry about ABS on ice and you won't have to worry about ELF putting a bumper sticker on your T. You don't have to worry about OBD codes and resetting the stupid dash light. Sounds like the T is the real thing.
 

John Moore (Jmoore)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Talk about an original off road vehicle, there were very few paved roads at it's time!

-John
 

Pugsly (Pugsly)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Did they ever make a 4x4 version of the Model T? Could make for an interesting conversion!
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Model T Ford Specifications in 1909 -

Final Drive: By cardon shaft with single universal joint to bevel drive gears in live rear axle. Ford three point system (patented in all countries) with all moving parts enclosed in dust proof casing, running in oil. Vanadium steel throughout.


doesn't sound like originally it was designed for it.

Jaime
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dana 44 front end, dana 60 rear end-you'd be all set. And with those fenders, no fender trimming to fit just about any size tire you would want.

Keep the engine, it's not that far off of a Series engine.
 

KJ
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Get a horse, they go everywhere and then some.

Plus, your DiscoWeb cape would look really great as you ride off into the sunset.....

Karen :)
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Whole deal -

"Model T Ford Specifications in 1909:
The following information was gathered from the "Model T Advance Catalog," printed 1908. The data below is for American made cars.

Motor: 4 cylinder, 4 cycle 20 h. p. 3 3/4 in. bore, 4 in. stroke. Cylinders cast in one block with water jackets
Ignition: Ford magneto generator, low tension, direct connected to engine drive.
Carburetor: Float feed automatic with dash adjustment.
Transmission: Ford spur planetary, bathed in oil, - all gears from heat treated Vanadium steel, silent and easy in action.
Lubrication: Combination splash and gravity system-simple and sure. Insures against insufficient or excessive lubrication.
Clutch: Multiple steel discs, operating in oil. All forward speeds are controlled by foot pedal. Reverse by hand lever. Spark and throttle under steering wheel.
Final Drive: By cardon shaft with single universal joint to bevel drive gears in live rear axle. Ford three point system (patented in all countries) with all moving parts enclosed in dust proof casing, running in oil. Vanadium steel throughout.
Front Axle: One piece drop forging in I-beam section, specially treated, Vanadium steel.
Steering: By Ford reduction gear system; irreversible.
Brakes 2 sets. (a) Service band brake on transmission; (b) Internal expanding brakes in rear hub drums.
Wheels: Artillery wood type. Hubs extra long.
Tires Pneumatic; rear 30 x 3 1/2 inches, front 30 x 3 inches.
Springs: Front and rear, semi-elliptic.
Wheel Base: 100 in., tread 56 in.; 60 in. for Southern roads where ordered.
Gas Tank: 10 gallons. Cylindrical gasoline tank mounted directly on frame.
Standard Equipment: Side oil lamps, tail lamp, tube horn and gas lamp brackets. Touring Car and Roadster ironed for top.
Weight: 1200 lbs.
Price: $850, F.O.B., Detroit, Mich."
 

Randall Smith
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm sold!

Just went to www.mtfca.com. Prices of used model T's comperable to Disco. But parts are much cheaper.

Randall
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Does anyone have a picture of a modified T - just so I can really weigh the options against my Discovery?

I'm busy with inventory today, otherwise I'd Photosh... I mean, research this myself.

e
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

erik,

see the site Ranall mentioned. they have a gallery here:

http://www.mtfca.com/gallery/index.htm
 

adtoolco
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

what about this

/image

-Chris
 

muskyman
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

anyone see the ford ad where mr ford in his pink lipstick talks about ford really inventing the sport utility showing the cross country jaunts his great grand dad used to make with the whos who of the time?

the rear suspension on those things moves very well with tons of droop .they used that same suspension in the small pick-ups for 45years. i remember as a kid a farmer near me had a 2wd old ford farm truck and he could go up stuff that was pretty amazing always loaded to the gills with heavy stuff as well that truck would flex to the point you would think it was broken but yet it would just drive on another day.

no fancy gas charged shocks, locker,...ect ect just simple low gears and tons of flex
 

adtoolco
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn I suck...

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/cargo-personnel/cargo-personnel.html

Check out this link...Scroll down to the Model T. I think it has the disco beat.

-Chris
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

tracked t


nice call chris...i like it
 

muskyman
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

so whats the steering wheel for?
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

something to hold onto!
 

muskyman
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I guess that would add to the feeling you actually had some control.
 

Peter Matusov (Pmatusov)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'd take this one... had a chance of buying one in Poland for $800 (with a small diesel), but the deal fell through.



peter
 

adtoolco
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Check out the army guy in the backround. The smile says it all.

-Chris
 

Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There were some 4x4 conversion companies, but I can't remember their names. Seems like one was Hendrickson or something like that. Had a similar axle up front with steering knuckles, enclosed d-shaft, etc. Trucks were mostly converted but there are a few examples of the cars around. VERY desireable for the collector.

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